Why do digital cables sound different?

Longer digital cables sound better than short ones, according to my ears. My listening tests were with Illuminations SPDIF and PS Audio Statement AES/EBU, comparing 1/2 meter to 2 meter lengths. Has anyone else also found this to be true? Anyone have a technical explanation?

Warjarrett,

Yes, there are technical explanations as to why a longer digital cable sounds 'better', unfortunately, there are also very good explanations as to why shorter sounds 'better'.
Frankly, I think it's pretty clear from my listening tests that longer digital cables sound warmer and fuller, while shorter cables are brighter and more revealing. Ray Kimber has stated the same thing.
I don't think it's worth worrying about, as long as you find the cable that performs best in your system.

Why is everything we hear un-measurable ?
If you can hear a difference, could we come up with a difference that we could measure...

Gee.......how did I ever miss this one? I gotta pay more attention to what goes on around here.

OK.....briefly.........the impedance of the cable, transport and receiver have to be matched. In the case of SPDIF, that means 75 ohms. 75 ohms means BNC, and not RCAs. (75 ohm RCAs can not exist, the laws of physics say so.)

Anyway......if there is ANY impedance mismatch, part of the signal will bounce back and forth. (Reflections......in nerd-speak. ) The reflected signal can cause disturbances in the clock recovery. (Don't ask me to 'splain why......it is just the nature of a poorly designed protocol.) When you have a system where all 3 components are matched, impedance-wise, then you should not be able to hear any differences when you futz around trying different combinations.

Sadly, most stuff is not even close to being 75 ohms. Not cables, not receivers, and transports are usually far off the mark. Transports are ususally designed to produce the least amount of EMI, and that spells disaster for SPDIF.

Receivers usually suffer from input stages that use RS422 inputs, that have lots of hysterisis. Which is a form of regenerative feedback......which means lots of reflections from reactive elements being coupled back into the input, blah, blah....

(A very famous maker of digital gear once designed a DAC that had a 5-pole filter on the input. Any wonder why it sounded like crud? And to think that they actually offered me a job once, to help fix all their problems. How dumb did they think I am?)

As for cables.......well......RCA jacks and mystery coax...or worse.........twisted pair.......make getting an impedance match darn near impossible.

Which gives rise to an entire industry of after-market kludges, designed to move money from your wallet and into someone else's.

(Actually....a buddy of mine used to make probably the only one that ever worked as claimed. Only to see it skewered on some DIY website. My, my.......)

Did that answer the question?

Not only do cables sound different from each other, but they are also directional.

OK.....I know some of you are thinking that I have spent too much time out in the hot Texas sun. Yes, I have, but that is besides the point. For many years, I was the "wire and cable guru" in the Advanced Technology Lab for a major telecom outfit. To support this claim, I have provided links to some data on different cables that I have here at the lab.

For those of you who aren't interested in looking, here is the short version:

All cables have impedance perturbations along their length. Where they are (in relation to the load and source end) and their magnitude, along with anomalies were the shield and centre conductor are separated to go into the connector will have *some* impact on impedance. And therefore, how they will measure. Hey......if they measure differently, it is not a hard stretch to conclude that they will sound differently. On SPDIF, this is one place where "If it measures different............."

Granted, the differences, both measured and audible are minuscule, they do exist.

Before I go any further, I should explain something about coax cables in general. A bog standard 75 ohm coax will have an impedance variation of +/- 3 ohms. IOW, the cheap stuff that you may buy at "rat shack". A decent 75 ohm cable will have a variation of +/-1.5 ohms. A precision one will have a variation of +/-0.75 ohms. Most of you will never see one that good. The only place they turn up in my work is for calibration kits for network analysers.

So.....for those of you who want to see what I am talking about, here you go.....

First is the cheap cable that we used to include with our D/A convertor box. The U-Byte 1 cable was not intended to be the greatest thing ever invented (we sold them for $20 for anyone who wanted one), but it outperformed most cables in the<$200 price range. (This was back in '92 or so. I think.......) Anyway, the reason it worked so well was not its absolute impedance (which was is the +/-1.5 ohm range), but due to its 6 m length. It was that ol' "If the reflections arrive after the decision point" philosophy at work.

If you look closely at the graph, you will see how there are minor differences between the green and black traces at the higher frequencies. One is one way.........the other the other way. (Which direction is right?.........both or neither, depending on your outlook in life.)

A further bit on the graphs..........

As the length of the cable (6 m, in this case) becomes significant in relation to the frequency, you get lobing on the graphs. For this reason, using a Vector Network Analyser is not the preferred way to accurately measure cable impedance. That is best done on a Time Domain Reflectometer. If I get the time, I will make those measurements available.

So......it is best to read the impedance at the lower frequencies. In this case, the reflection is -40 dB, and that translates to an error of +/-1.5 ohms.

OK, next is the U-Byte 2 cable. This is a better cable. It has an reflection of -50 dB at the low frequencies, which gives us an impedance error in the +/-0.5 ohm range. Not bad for something that I bought from Belden for a buck a foot. On this one, while the errors are less, they are more apparent with direction. This is easily explained, as a readily available (and affordable) 75 ohm BNC connector was not to be found. I used a good BNC jack that I had to modify (by hand) each and every one, in order to make it fit the Belden cable. Yes, done that way, there is an obvious lack of precision. Still.........it was and is a damn good cable.

*Which is no longer made or available. Please do not ask to buy one, as there are none to be had, except the few that are still floating around in the lab. And no, I am not parting with any. Their inclusion is for reference purposes only.* In fact, we are not in the cable business at all. I will measure any cables supplied for testing, but will not make any, for anyone, at any price.

OK, the obvious question now becomes "What do other cables look like?"

Well, here are two. Not designed for SPDIF, but 2 cables that I have sitting on my bench. So I measured them.

First is a generic RG-59 cable. It is only 1 m long, so there is much less lobing at the higher frequencies (due to its shorter length). The accuracy is around +/-0.85 ohms, which is pretty darn good for something that just happens to be sitting around. If if were a bit longer, it may sound pretty good. Maybe. (The TDR would tell more.)

Then we have a Suhner cable that is clearly marked on its jacket that it is +/-1.5 ohms. It also has a return loss of -45 dB. Better than advertised. However, you will notice that it has less lobing, and is more accurate at the higher frequencies. Hmmm......maybe I should connect a few of them in series and listen to them.................

Well, maybe not. I have other things to do. None of which involve audio.

Hope this gives some of you something to ponder next time you plunk down $$$$$$$ on digital cables.

Enjoy, and Happy Listening!