Why do all Mahler recordings seem too bright?


Yes - I may be exaggerating but I haven’t yet found any recordings of his symphonies that properly balance the extra treble energy that are often part of the dynamic swings.  Part of the problem may be that I’m not sure I yet actually “like” Mahler’s music though there are moments that are exquisite.  But, I can’t get through a whole piece because the recordings hurt my ears.  

As a side note - I have been on both sides of a microphone - having been a musician in the past and also having recorded/mixed a number of orchestral concerts at a performing arts center.  Pre-pandemic I would go to orchestral concerts regularly. So - I do have at least some reference.

I have some recordings (they were given to me) that are positively unlistenable (a DG recording of his 5th may be singularly the worst recording I’ve heard).

I thought the hi res versions of San Francisco by MTT might be the ticket.  While better, they still seem too bright and harsh to me.

Perhaps it’s my system that’s too bright, or perhaps something else is going on but I’ve plenty of other classical music that sounds better. We’ll recorded jazz and acoustic, too. 

Of course I can find poor recordings in any genre, but I’d welcome recommendations from my fellow forumites of some Mahler recordings that I might try.  I’d love to be able to listen to the closing moments of the 2nd at reasonable volume - without cringing.  

 

 

mgrif104

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I don't know what's going on.  All I can say is that Bernstein recording of the 5th with the Vienna Philharmonic on DGG sounds gorgeous on my system.

@twoleftears: this is so true. That has to be the ne plus ultra of 5ths. In the Adagietto, you can hear the sweat coming down Bernstein's face.

I have an amazing Bernstein story: when I was heading back to college in NY from thanksgiving holiday at my parents' house in the early 70s, I got to the Pittsburgh airport and the Allegheny Airlines agent at the counter (a guy) said to me, "would you like to sit in first class?". Being the son of a steelworker, I said "hell yes!". I got to the plane and walked aboard, and there, sitting in the seat next to mine, was Leonard Bernstein, smoking a cigarette with a cigarette holder, and a big smile on his face. He talked my ear off the whole flight, asked me to call him "Lenny", and gave me his phone number, telling me to call him and come to Avery Fisher Hall to see him. I was NOT a music major, but I sure knew who Leonard Bernstein was.

It wasn't until years later that I figured out that my "upgrade" had been paid by Bernstein, who undoubtedly told the agent to put some young boy in the seat next to him, as I was unaware, when the flight occurred, that Bernstein was bisexual and partial to young white men. Yes, I do tell people that Bernstein tried to bed me. 

@kr4 thanks for the recommendations! I just listened to the Vanska/Minnesota and it’s much better! I should have tried that one without prompting because I’m often surprised at how much I enjoy both their playing and recordings.

@mgrif104: The Minnesota/Vanska are amazing. Their Beethoven and Sibelius sets get heavy play at my house.

I just bought the MTT/SFSO set "Mahler Project". It came highly recommended from a few friends. I should get it in a few weeks, since it's on back order with the seller I bought it from on Amazon.