Why did it take so long

willemj
I can only agree with freediver. Geoff, you are not providing evidence, just voodoo.

As per usual the “set in their ways” subset ignores all evidence. “If the glove doesn’t fit you must acquit.” A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse. 😬

Geoffkait: “Really? How did you measure the Silver Rainbow Foil? The Green Pen? Demagnetizer? Just curious.”

To which Steve replied,

“You are not just curious, you want to disprove everything I say here. I’ll respond anyway:

I have the same disk here with and without treatments, including most of these tweaks, but even more important, I have the same disk with the rubberized coating and without. The one that makes the biggest difference. I can easily hear the difference and measure the difference.”

>>>You did an excellent job of avoiding the question. I’m not trying to disprove what you say. Prove and disprove are such strong words, don’t you think? I only presented evidence that digital has not really “arrived” as the OP suggested. By the way, Silver Rainbow Foil and Cream Electret, for example, have nothing whatsoever to do with laser reading of the disc OR jitter. Ditto many of my products, clock, Teleportation, Intelligent Chip, among others. Scattered laser light has everything to do with laser reading of the disc, I.e., data retrieval, so tweaks such as Green Pen, Green tray, CD edge beveler actually address data retrieval.

Steve, Sorry to hear you haven’t had much luck. I guess that’s the way the cookie crumbles. 🍪 Good luck in your future endeavors.

Reducing jitter and improving data reads. What’s the difference? There seems to be a lot of overlap. Besides, scattered background laser light is clearly in the latter camp. So is obtaining absolute level of the disc during play. The Silver Rainbow Foil and the demagnetization we’re not sure. 😛

Those tweaks are only going to have a minimal effect on jitter? That sounds an awful lot like wishful thinking. I would call the effects subtle. Subtle but powerful.

willemj
I can only agree with freediver. Geoff, you are not providing evidence, just voodoo.

Nevermind, willemj. It wasn’t really for your ears anyway.

Really? How did you measure the Silver Rainbow Foil? The Green Pen? Demagnetizer? Just curious.

Some evidence that digital still doesn’t retrieve all the information that’s in the “grooves.” Not by a long shot. You’ve come a long way, Baby! But you have a long way to go! 🤠

A. Demagnetizing interconnects, CDs and power cords, e.g., Walker Talisman.

B. Ionizing CDs, interconnects and power cords or Anti Static spray.

C. Applying CD treatments, I.e. Auric Illuminator, Liquid Resolution (RIP), whatever.

D. CD edge beveler/angle cutter.

E. Green Pen for outer edge of CD, Black Pen for inner edge.

F. Silver Rainbow Foil.

G. CD mats such as Marigo.

H. Getting the CD absolutely level during play (as opposed to level of top of chassis).

I. Using a green or turquoise tray instead of black.

J. Isolating the CD player.

K. Freezing or cryoing CDs.

L. Freezing or cryoing the CD player.

The scattered background laser light getting into the photodetector is still an issue. They are either unaware of the issue or choose to ignore it. And seismic vibration is still an issue obviously.