Why Aren't More Speaker Designers Building Augmented Widebanders?


Over the years I've owned a number of different speakers - KLH, Cerwin Vega, Polk, Opera Audio, Ars Aures, and Merlin VSM. One thing they all had in common was a crossover point in the 2000 hz (+ or -) range. I've read reviews of speakers where the reviewer claimed to be able to hear the crossover point, manifested as some sort of discontinuity. I've never heard that. My Merlin VSM's for example sounded completely seamless. Yet my new Bache Audio Metro 001 speakers, with a single wideband driver covering the range of 400 hz to 10,000 hz, augmented by a woofer and a super tweeter, sounds different from all of these other speakers. The midrange of the Bache 001's is cleaner, more coherent, more natural than I have heard before. Music flows from the speakers in a more relaxed manner, and subjectively dynamic range is greater, with no etch or brightness, and no loss of resolution compared with the Merlins. I have to conclude that Bache's design has an inherent advantage over more traditional designs with a crossover point or points in the midrange frequencies. I wonder why more speaker designers haven't tried this approach?
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Getting to a wideband driver that can cleanly do upper frequencies (above approx 3k to maybe 10k) is an art that few driver designers can meet.

It's very tough to do, with regard to being capable in all directions required. Generally...the more wideband a driver is... the more restricted it is in some vital areas.

Some/most are very aurally sensitive to the distortions created in these drivers that attempt such wideband behaviour, and this is why you don't see many of them out there.

For example, the crossovers in white van speakers generally run the midrange drivers wide open on the top. You don't see anyone crowing about how good they sound.

It's a complex subject, but the point remains that wide band drivers with all the requisite capacities are exceedingly rare, and pretty well all have shortcomings of some sort..
Most importantly, if one is gong to SELL product to buyers, the product should be, as much as possible, what is known as a ’pull’ product, and never a ’push’ product.

a pull product is where the customer is actively seeking the item and pulls it from the company/store/brand. A push product is where the customer has to be actively sold the product by being convinced it is a thing to buy, and done by either the brand, salesman, store, reviewer, etc.

since humans are emotionally motivated, no matter how logical they think they are..and this is quadruply true in the realm of music reproduction gear, a business can go bankrupt in tumbleweeds and a ghost town of alack of customers... if the try to sell push products.

so we can have great products that due to people’s not being capable of being informed, or one step too far in their logic capacities/mental position, or simply so new it is not on anyone’s radar or ability to mentally negotiate, and so on.

then we can and do have reams and reams and reams of mediocre product that fits what people know and expect - and they keep pulling it out of the stores. People have a tendency to push buttons over and over, hoping that one of the newly pushed known and expected buttons will somehow work better than the last.

It’s all down to how the individual meat box approaches use of it’s rose colored glasses that all mental aspects are unknowingly filtered through and colored/altered/shifted by. (their individual sea of unconsciousness that far outweighs and far out powers their conscious ’voice in head’ thoughts)

a round bout explanatory way of saying that unknown and unrecognized speaker types will never sell and you’ve have to want to go out of your way to capture a tiny market that might not even be enough to make a living off of and might run out of customers quite fast once initiated.

Ie, that some may have a passion about a given idea in speakerworld...but ultimately it’s about selling product and putting food on the table in a stable long term manner.

And augmented full rangers probably won’t make the grade. Otherwise they’d be here already.

It’s difficult enough, even when you do have an fully viable functional winner in the ’actual new’ department, but that people don’t understand what it is.

Ie, we’re dealing with new technology that people don’t really understand. Even at the university and research of fundamental physics level. Mathematical models so complex they are unreachable. Which says nothing about the sound quality. We gain excited customers in the high end physics end of the audiophile pool, as they ’get it’ in a heartbeat, and they try the cable out.

But the rest of the buying public is so worn out by cable hype, and they don’t understand how freaking off the norm and how much of a break and change this is for the flow and sheer meaning of electrical function...well..it tends to look like just another space oddity in the charlatan end of the cable pool.

But when the physicists end of the buying pool looks at our cables they..get wide eyed and their minds wander and they quietly mutter "f--- me!! - mind fully blown".

A pull product for some, a push product for most. Product can also be legitimized by having competitors enter the market, and has the effect of making it seem more real and thus more customers enter the fray.

We patented a cornerstone in transmission technology so no one can follow. That’s how ’first’ we are across the technological/physics/engineering area that is involved. We are enforcibly unique by legal fiat. Which is part of why a well known cable manufacturer really did tell us that the high end cable industry did not like us, at all. That we were perceived as a threat to their existence, as they all knew that the next step in audio cables was literally in our hands exclusively.

One problem emerged. They’ve got pull products and we’ve got push products.People just aren’t getting it. Besides all the active attempts to make sure we are kept down. Seriously. People are strange. Especially when they sense a threat to their envelope of perceived self entitlement.

So, you can see...even good functional ideas that are backed by really good physics and really good sound quality can still crash or not achieve what they might in the minds of some idealistic projections.

Another part of it is if one has a product that is notably more correct but introduced in a market where where everything is ranging something like worse-to-wrong..you can’t gain traction, as people are living in an aura of doing things wrong, listening wrong, making wrong equipment choices and so on. So one can add the gear that is doing this far better than before but not have it match up to what the bulk of the market is struggling with and understands as music reproduction. Which is inherently working toward a fringe scenario, and makes for a non viable business model. That known phenomena about how the first company in a new item/idea/ area, is the one to break the market... but will die profitless as the market has to change first.

So, to survive in audio, one must produce what people expect and know ...and the bulk of the world is almost invariably wrong. This is a known phenomena. That the bulk of the given public is always wrong (the number is 97% of the public is wrong). To say so and try to change that ...is a quick way to financial and business death... so give them the wrong stuff that they want... and all new proposed stuff must be couched and clothed in the manner that the buyers pool project what the next step upward is. (ie, tattoos became the new unique thing over the past +decade. So now everyone is unique with their tattoos. All unique in the same way. right.)

And when you look at the most successful companies in the word of audio, that is exactly what you see. You don’t see cutting edge, you see what people, the potential buyers pool... thinks of as cutting edge.

Hope that helps explain why you don’t see much in the way of amazing and interesting gear out there, and that it never gains mainstream traction. As it simply can’t. It’s impossible. the definition of the center of the bell curve of the buying public is by nature one of mediocrity in both ideals and projections.

The long way home to dealing with the human (colored) logic involved in understanding that there is no real market for the OP's idea in speakers, even though it might be more correct.