Why are there so many wooden box speakers out there?


I understand that wood is cheap and a box is easier to make than a sphere but when the speaker companies charge tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars for their speakers, shouldnt consumers expect more than just a typical box? Are consumers being duped?

Back in the 70’s a speaker engineer found that a sphere was best for a speaker. A square box was the worst and a rectangular box was marginally better.

The speaker engineers have surely known about this research so why has it been ignored?

Cabasse is the only company doing spheres. Should wooden boxes be made illegal

kenjit

Showing 8 responses by holmz

Of course perception plays a role too. So youre wrong. All those things can affect the sound you hear indirectly. 

However… I am not a Feng Shui master.

They certainly have affected the sound that you hear.
As you see the shape, and you know it must be bad.

 

@holmz

The internal reflection would be absorbed by the stuffing. Cabasse has done sphere speakers. Rectangles are done because they are cheaper and easier. Would you like me to custom tune your speakers for you as you seem to be unhappy with your speakers. Are they square? Are they tuned to your ears? Are they in TIME?

What did I say to lead you to believe that I am not happy with my speakers?

And yes; my current speaker are in time (as well as phase).

Thirdly; the stuffing will not absorb much in terms of low frequency, how thick is this stuffing.

I was only guessing at the internal reflections as being “the thing.”
or another guess would be resonance.
What is the theory behind a perfect shape?
Why is a square box bad?

 

Back to the question… who did the research that you alluded to?
Can you provide a link?

 

@dekay nice parliament.

wrong again. The research shows it is the perfect shape. Speakers are there to reproduce what you play through them. They are not instruments. High end speaker companies know this.

Can you please point us to this research?

 

Back in the 70’s a speaker engineer found that a sphere was best for a speaker. A square box was the worst and a rectangular box was marginally better.

I would think that a square box is closer to sphere than a rectangular box is??

Is having all the internal reflections arriving back at the same time a good thing? Or would an amoeba shaped be better than a sphere to spread the reflected sound out temporally?

 

The freedom of choice has caused box speakers to be prevalent. Did you not see what someone wrote? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVGINIsLnqU&themeRefresh=1

 

@holmz

I think you’ve misunderstood the purpose of this thread. I am not here to prove to you that spheres are better. That has already been done by other engineers many years ago.

I am skeptical… are they better… how would i know?
I am disinclined to take your word for it over hundreds of manufacturers without some evidence that you could be correct.
Your word on it is not proof that your assertion/premise is correct… it’s just, “like your opinion dude.”

 

The question is, why are there so many boxes out there if they are wrong?

Table saws and panel saws cut do a good job of cutting flat wood panel straight.
Or
they are right and not wrong.

 

Tell me,what speakers do you have?

You first… where are your links.

 

Are they perfect? if not why not?

Probably not, but how does one define perfect?
In addition to FR, impluse response and step function response is radiation pattern , compression… and the list goes on…
With… style, looks and size.

One usually has a compromise for all those things, as well as cost.

they are obviously perfect enough as I have had them for a while.

 

Have you built any speakers?

Yes I have.

Should wooden boxes be made illegal

Yeah - I suppose with the penalty of death?

But only if we then bury the offender in a wooden coffin to drive the point home with some irony.

Baffle shape, size, rounded edges, etc. are all things done by many manufacturers.

Forget the sphere as the front of it is doing most of the work here.

 


@o_holter @budjoe @schwantner … good points.

Surprising his “ID” was not as developed as one might of expected, whereas the “Ken” was quite pronounced.

The first step towards PERFECTION is to listen to your speakers and then write down a list of all the things which are imperfect about them. Do it Dill and then come back

^That^ is not a bad exercise…

However the grill or box colour, the material and the shape of the speaker are more things that I would suspect an interior decorator, or Feng Shui master, would care about.
They do not, by definition, affect the sound.