Who says cables don't make a difference?


Funny, after all these years, people still say things like "you wasted all that money on cables". 
There are still those who believe cables don't make a difference.
I once did marketing for a cable line I consider to be about the best-Stealth Audio Cables. 
One CES, I walked the rooms with the designer/owner, Serguei Timachev. He carried a pair of his then new Indra interconnects. Going from room to room he asked the room runners to replace their source to preamp IC with the Indra. There was not one that was not completely flabbergasted and said that the Indras blew away what they were using. That was the skyrocketing of Indra and Stealth. The Indra became one of the best reviewed cables ever.
Serguei now makes the Sakra-an IC that blows away the Indra!
I don't understand why some still do not value cables as much as I.
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Any measurements will NOT change the mind of these guys. We saw that first hand here with the posts on Iconoclast cables. Even when those measurements are shown, they say: they don’t matter, irrelevant, not audible, beyond human hearing threshold, very small to worry about, blah, blah, 😑

So why even bother? Nothing will do. These folks are firmly entrenched in their bunkers. 


Oh @boxer12 —— I am fully aware. He has done it before. Under now banned “AtDavid” moniker, and a few others
@speedbump6 --- you are wasting your time with this guy. Give it up, you will get nowhere, no matter what. 
Speedbump —- I hear you, and I agree with your well laid out posts. One hundred percent. All I was implying is advising you not to feed the trolls. It empowers them
The funny thing is, certain people who believe cables are junk, ripoff, snake oil, like our senile friend Dow Jones here, or like AtDavid posting under his many fake accounts (this time “Robert” 😂😂) go in every single cable thread they can find. They search for them! Question is why? If something does not interest you, why bother? Serious question.
Hey Mitch2 ——‘ people who don’t worry about cables are the happiest people in the world” —- quoting you.

Are you sure? Then why are you guys in every single cable thread you can find in the Internets? This is how you happy people spend your time? So wasting your time in topics you “don’t worry” about is part of your happiness? Not sure if this kind of thing is happiness much. More like miserable 
And what makes you think @boxer12 these types try cables? Any cables. For them, it’s not a matter of price. It’s a principle. A dogma. Like not wearing masks that kind of thing

roberttdid
471 posts07-13-2020 4:32pmIs that the real problem boxer12? ... that you only have some hobby level experience, but I have educational, research and practical experience in electronics, signal processing and acoustics? ... does it make you feel inadequate? ... it must, because you spend an awful lot of effort to attack me, but fail miserably at attacking my information and ideas. That’s probably why your posts are just hand waving at best, and mine contain clear, concise concepts.

Show me! bring it on what you have. I have only seen negative posts from you, i.e. don’t do this, don’t do that, this is snake oil, etc. etc. I have never seen anything constructive, helping people with the stuff that you proclaim to be a specialist. Under this handle and under your previous atdavid handle, and God knows what other handles.

Can you have a bit more positivity, focus on what you know, rather than simply bashing stuff you have zero interest on? Why be a Debbie Downer?
Did you fix the Internet yet fat boy? How is life in your mommy’s basement? 😂😂
Oh come on AtDavid. I figured out very quickly that “roberttdid” was banned “AtDavid” with a new handle. If one were to simply read a couple of posts from both “names”, would quickly know it’s one and the same person. Why did you have to change your name though?

You are very famous too:

https://memegenerator.net/instance/69471456/fat-guy-with-computer-im-fixing-the-internet-guys
Ahhhh..... cat is out of the bag! AtDavid! Why are you posting under different username you never said?
Ethan:

WE ARE testing whether an individual can reliably detect which of two cables is which.
BUT .... I am not testing the cable, I am testing the audiophiles claim w.r.t. cables
Hmmmm.... so you are testing people, not audio gear / cables ?

And why? What is your end result? it sounds like your test subjects (people) are this disgraced species, the audiophiles. 

cleeds3,114 posts07-14-2020 2:07pm

@roberttdid if you are really serious about conducting some blind tests, please provide us with some details about your plan.

He already did, when posting under atdavid account. In a conversation with Mike Powell:

atdavid736 posts11-18-2019 11:23amI am there for work every 8 weeks approximately, but no guarantees on a Friday. I am certainly in. I don't think it matters if me or Dimora is a believer or not, as long as you are. If you can pick your cables out blind (or between a basic shielded cable and yours) then you have proved they make a difference.


I don't know whether this ever materialized. Mike ?
You did not answer my question atdavid --- why are you testing the audiophiles? What is your endresult of your "testing"? 

Oh... and please keep up the good fight over the entire internet LOL!!!
Engineer my as#%^. He is full time nonstop online in all audio forums and Facebook fighting the Good Samaritan fight. There is no time to do any actual work. How does he find the time to do any engineering? 
If you read “Robert’s” posts, and then “AtDavid’s”, it’s clear as light they are one and the same person. This is no secret. There is no point “Robert” does not admit that. Mr. “W.R.T”
@mahgister --- you don't understand, I am sorry. This sophist's blindtest experiments are meant to test the listener, not the gear.

He has made it clear multiple times. Under both his accounts, atdavid first now this "robert".

Most certainly they are not meant to test HIM.

So, similar to Mike Powell's offer to him when he was atdavid to visit him to blindtest the cables, he will likely ask you to do the same --- ask YOU to blindtest your tweaks, not him on his own. 
Probably moderators deleted them. They deleted some of mine too. AtDavid never deletes anything 
Yet, these people who do not believe in cables, spend all their time in the cable forums. For some unexplainable reason. It’s like a devout Muslim spending all their time in wine connoisseur forums. That would be really weird. And strange.
I tell you the truth @speedbumb6. The reason why these characters spend their time in all cable forums, their entire life. They are here to save the poor souls from the evil of cable makers 😂. Like good Samaritans, or missionaries.

Robert told me this. Back then when he was posting under @atdavid fake account. He specifically told me that I cannot be saved. He was there to save the others, according to him hundreds of newbies who he believes are out there, silently reading these forums. And that’s the truth my friend. That’s why they are in all cable forums. The crusade runs very deep!

And @andy2  don’t worry, he is probably busy fighting his holy war somewhere else, in other Audio forums and Facebook. I am 100% sure. He is a full time missionary. Or crusader. And if he is indeed banned (I don’t blame Audiogon for banning him, he never buys or sell anything here to make them a single dime), he will eventually resurface under a different fake account. Which again, I will easily spot, like this time with AtDavid becoming “Robert”
Hey @pfh... why do we have to prove anything? I don’t give a shit what you think. I don’t care if you think I am hallucinating.

If this subject does not interest you, move on. Why do feel the urge to post in a cable forum? Spend your time in things that interest you, whatever that is. Logical, no?
AtDavid: May I respectfully tell you a big Fuck You!! 😂😂. I am sure you will read it before it’s deleted. After all, you are a full time troll that spend all your life in the audio forums. You can’t miss this 🤘🖕🖕🖕

Lowlife
AtDavid strikes again! Of course under one of his several fake accounts.

And there sure Dow Jones. Guaranteed these two will be on every single “snake oil” thread. Defenders of the poor souls 😂