Who says cables don't make a difference?


Funny, after all these years, people still say things like "you wasted all that money on cables". 
There are still those who believe cables don't make a difference.
I once did marketing for a cable line I consider to be about the best-Stealth Audio Cables. 
One CES, I walked the rooms with the designer/owner, Serguei Timachev. He carried a pair of his then new Indra interconnects. Going from room to room he asked the room runners to replace their source to preamp IC with the Indra. There was not one that was not completely flabbergasted and said that the Indras blew away what they were using. That was the skyrocketing of Indra and Stealth. The Indra became one of the best reviewed cables ever.
Serguei now makes the Sakra-an IC that blows away the Indra!
I don't understand why some still do not value cables as much as I.
mglik

Showing 6 responses by oldhvymec

My entire room and gear cost???? Under 12K

Here was my total, with cables, C22, a pair of MC240s, two hand made TT, and about 1500.00 in some Strathearn / GB / Misco speakers...
6200.00 in permit, concrete, materials and I did most of the building..

6200.00  (1986) The room 16 x 20 x 8
5100.00  (1976) My gear..

Total under 12K.. What would it cost today?

6 to12K for cables alone??? Holy cow, in my little world, that kind $$$$ built the whole sha-bang...

If I did now, 35-40K and no speakers...another 5-7k if I build them.
30,000.00 for 4 hardwood, MDF rubber lined cabinets. Good cabinet guy.
Not speaker guy... and 4,000.00 for all the drivers and XO stuff.

Little under 80K, still no cables... LOL

Now time to go feed the chickens... Goat ate my hat, while I was gone...
That was my fave..... That was my dancin’ hat...

McOlay! Come on dog.... Dogs Irish, like me....

Where’s my bagpipes...

Regards...
Normally, I give um, first time having one, live and learn... ;-)

Keep on livin’ sure make it easier to keep on learning. LOL.

Last...Me and that dog been having a great ol time. The hat eatin’ goat though... Were gonna have to have a talk...

Really I do feel good, better than I have in a while... Modern meds are a wonderful thing... Truely, must be made of gold though....

I’m frugal.. not cheap, but man oh man...LOL. I was gonna see if the pharmacist would do a rock, paper, scissor, for a double of nothing... I don’t gamble.. LOL

Thanks though,

Upgrading the sound in a CES room is like painting a turd.
  
Hee Hee, Man oh man do I agree with that one...
It always amazed me... They are trying to sell something, I think???
Then go out of their way to say how it would sound for you?
But it sounds bad there, Huh!!! duno...

Regards...
Silver clad copper PTFE x 3 and 1 pure copper multi strand. Weave and add red copper ends..Shield armor. 40.00 usd.. 5-900.00 retail. Seen a few over 2,000.00. pretty covers, though...

#16-12 for anything other than power amps
#8-12 for power amps

Sorry PC can only do so much...AC clean up goes a lot further than 250-900 PC...BUT hay... just money... poorly spent but it's just money..

Crack me up...

Regards...
It’s very simple, most folks don’t have 6K for cables. So where does that leave the the 12K pair...

If I could, would I? I’m thinking!!!! I don’t think so.

I think it’s great you enjoy it though...
BUT, I’m not one of the cable envy guys, either.

Chevys, Fords, Mercedes. Remember the Porsche/TT/Reel to Reel, thread.  All different, but you really can’t talk someone into another brand, when they are a real lover.... Suppose it’s the same, with cables..

Regards
MC, you mean they run the cables, from display, to display?

That would be pretty cool. It’s not that I wouldn’t spend good money on good cables. It’s more like the cables I run on the gear I use, work, pretty darn good. I’m a couple months out on PAINT, and another month until we get to removing and recovering the flooring, in one of the rooms here.

Covid 19, my new heart stents, the old body is slowing down..LOL
Yup Monday had a damn heart attack behind a blood clot. That from a
nasty bruise, on my inner thy. I wasn’t on thinners...Opps! That hurt...
Boiling oil, comes to mind....

Cables are no less or more important, than every other component. I just choose to hold off, until the rooms (two) are a whole lot closer..

I think, the final touches should be cables, and if I’m paying attention to the gear and the sound coming from the rooms as the project progresses.. That’s when I might take a leap.. The issue for me, is there are VERY few people I can compare my gear to...4 pairs maybe in the US..of the Elixirs, and not one close to the modded up units, I have...

It’s a very different, type of speaker. A hybrid linesourse, no super fancy cable required, they never have.
Solid silver, Good copper, tough to beat. Add anything newer, either boils my ears...or kills them.

I been using a tuning box on my cables..works great.. OXO,
has a turret board I can tune the heck out of the cables in the runs.

I’d like to go through a few cables and really check out the newer stuff.. One thing at a time.

But 6K, the ol Doctor would have to bring some pretty urgent news, like
you got 6 months to live, and dying wont cost TOO much.
If I had a year, I’d be holding off, 6 months. Then bury me with them. ;-)

Regards..

georgemgraves
3 posts06-30-2020 6:46pm

Wire (cable) can only subtract information (not that all do) from the signal it’s conducting. Since wire is not active, only passive.
That’s why I don’t pay any attention (or money) to cables.


What do you use then? You know, to conduct your signal?

10 -17" Baton, maestro? How is it getting there, wireless?

You say better?

Ok... I’m here to learn...

Regards