Who says cables don't make a difference?

i already have propose a simple test....

he does not answer....

My test can be applied by all and is very simple to transform in a blindtest, and to transform also any cable impact....

Scientist dont argue....Except between themselves after an experiment....

I makes experiments of my own for the last 2 years....

I am not a scientist but i know that good faith is the basis of science....

All the rest is marketing or debunkery....





  Here it is for the last time:

take a bag of micro herkimer diamonds (40 or more around 10gram) and a piece of shungite (100 gram) put them on an amplifier near the transformer, one after the other and anyone will be able to pass the blindtest and guess which each one is ....

The shungite will compress the sound, the herkimer diamonds will expand it....

After the blindtest i will give a recipe for other experiments....

Is it not simple enough?

The total cost is a few bucks for each minerals....

@mahgister --- you don’t understand, I am sorry. This sophist’s blindtest experiments are meant to test the listener, not the gear.

My simple test is only that: testing the difference and very opposite effect of 2 minerals on an audio component...

After verifying that anybody can use a blindtest to verify his own impressions in listening the 2 minerals different impact...

Is it too complicate?

You can use that minerals on any cable and modifying the connectors also etc...

I always suppose people are of good faith because i am always myself....

roberttdid

Why do you ignore my polite offer to do a simple test yourself ?

Arguments are not enough, and arguing is of no avail except for marketers and debunkers.... Scientist prefer experiment first...

Or do you prefer to argue?


Here it is:

take a bag of micro herkimer diamonds (40 or more around 10gram) and a piece of shungite (100 gram) put them on an amplifier near the transformer, one after the other and anyone will be able to pass the blindtest and guess which each one is ....

The shungite will compress the sound, the herkimer diamonds will expand it....

After the blindtest i will give a recipe for other experiments....

Is it not simple enough?

The total cost is a few bucks for each minerals....

I have given a simple test to try and will wait for a feedback....

Arguments only are mainly for marketers or debunkers...

Experiments are more interesting and in audio the crux of the matter....

Here it is:


take a bag of micro herkimer diamonds (40 or more around 10gram) and a piece of shungite (100 gram) put them on an amplifier near the transformer, one after the other and anyone will be able to pass the blindtest and guess which each one is ....

The shungite will compress the sound, the herkimer diamonds will expand it....

After the blindtest i will give a recipe for other experiments....

He is an engineer if you read his posts ....

And most people here are not young....

roberttdid, take a bag of herkimer diamond and a piece of shungite put them on an amplifier one after the other and anyone will be able to pass the blindtest and guess which each one is ....

Try it yourself....Instead of loosing time to debunk open doors....


Are you not curious?

Is it not a simple experiment?

You always ask for argument.... this is better than an argument....

After that i will give to you a simple cable recipe.... :)

You answered swiftly those who has disrespected you.... I respect your knowledge...But you dont know everything even about cables....

By the way i create my own sound heaven with experiments not arguments....Who need arguments?

:)

Well said.... :)

Not many scientist inhabit an audio thread....Their time is very short and very full already by other finality than arguing...

Debunking is not a scientific activity "per se" nor marketing a product is either ... Experience in audio even for 40 years is not proof that you know all there is to know....

If i want to know about electrical compatibility between some electronic components i will ask some engineer here that are very competent.... We all know already some...

But who among them will know how to use an herkimer diamond (H.D.) to improve very much an audio system for peanuts? Or will they smile at my "irrational" and "illusory" idea, even if experimenting that is easy, will they perform it? One thing is sure, a true scientist will try my idea, he will not propose a blind test instead....

But the answer is no for most, most will not experiment with the H. D. ....

Dogmas kill science....Simple....

Happily i am an undogmatic free spirit, i listen to no one, except some competent one for basic information, and there is good fellows for that here, but i takes all that in my hand for the rest.... I am very proud.of my low cost audio system... :)

Anyone with an agenda, pro cables or anti cables, audiophile marketer or audiophile debunker has nothing to do with science....And technology is a servant of science, a slave of scientific endeavour not science by itself...It is truer with the passing centuries.... The more advanced species quit physical technology long time ago.... :)

Dont ask me how i know that.... 

When I say that cables can’t add anything, they can only subtract, I’m pointing out the passive nature of wire. It is not an active component;

Take a piece of shungite and put it on the amplifier cover over the transformer.... Shungite is a "passive" piece of minerals....And observe the compression of the sound....

Now take a big chunk of quartz and put it on the same location and observe the clearing of the sound, a decompression but with too much accent in the higher frequencies now....


Third experiment put them together and report here your experience...

You will forget after that about ready made "scientific fact" about "passive" wire that are only engineering prejudice... You will discover why copper cable and silver one differ and can ADD something indeed....

:)

« "Science is history of science" said Goethe, i will add science is, at the beginning like at the end, nothing else» -Groucho Marx

These debates about cables are generally without interest.....

Defenders and opponents are like 2 cats reading the other's grin with a replicating grin, and the 2 cats disapearence at the end let only their 2 grins mimicking one another, without any cats anymore like the Cheshire cat in Lewis Carroll....

:)

Morrow A3 interconnect for example are good and makes a difference for the price for me....

But like just say someone else here, cables rarely makes the difference their big price sometimes promise....

I dont know why this subject is not only controversial but all around all time....

Embedding rightly an audio system exceed even most of the times the impact of upgrading the speakers or the dac or the amplifier and sometimes exceed even the changes of these three E.C. ... I am an old rambler but it seems almost nobody knows that in my experience here, then they argue endlessly about cables.... :)



« A new cable make a big difference between my wife and me» -Groucho Marx