who makes your fav cable loom in 2021?

Thanks much.

one does need to hear what the components sound like however, and that means one needs cabling.

I have nothing on hand to speak of now, hence this thread.

jjss49
start with some basic, low cost, quality cabling and move from there

blindjim>
golden input. thanks a lot. makes perfect sense.

just remembered I have some older Audio art rCAs about.

I did buy a couple Audio Envy PCs and don’t think I’ll get more cables from there. not sonically errant, just not a very robust build quality.

geof
Look at the Shunyata Research Venom line, or if budget allows, Delta.

blindjim>
THX. its astonishing how many brands I’ve used in the past have escaped my memory. I’ve used the Shunyata ’snakes’ PCs to great effect in past rigs.

my fav SR PC was the Taipan Helix Alpha. sweet cord indeed.

twoleftears
If you're looking at ICs, SCs, and PCs, I'd look at Triode Wire Labs.

blindjim>
you are echoing a friend of mine as you point to Triode. Thanks.


pauly
Wireworld. Their low end stuff is pretty good value for money and fairly neutral.

blindjim>
again, thanks for jogging the ‘ol memory banks.

my previous FAV main ICs were usually Synergistic Re of one sort or another. in fact today I still have 3 sets of their speaker cables in various levels of performance, active and static, bi wired and std.

with previous eXP Cardas, Nordost, and SR still have me inparting some confidence in these lines.

what is different now is the OMG lofty price levels even their midlevel ranges demand. WOW!

the Cardass further exasserbates things in my mind as thier various tiers of performance are confusing. clear? blue? beyond?

that said and from hearing them loom a couple rigs at past audio shows, they do interest me. as did, AQ cabling, oddly enough. i hearda Luxman & Magico A3 pairing wired front to back with aQ and found it quite engaging.

the problem with audio shows is the wiring in use is often well above entry level or even mid level fare.

if at this point i had to throw $$$$ into the wind hitting and hoping so to speak I’d likely opt to pitch it at the atmosphere line from Synergistic but I will check out what I can about Triode and some others mentioned here.
THCX

gee thanks everyone. sevewral posts here have really got me interested in brands I’ve no real world eXP, and for me, that is a rarity, especially about those options that are not main stream upper range products. well at least not upper priced range products..

@builder

Blindjim> Sorry. I was trying to avoid being too pedantic relying on folks around here acknowledging this past time application of the term ‘loom’.
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looks like everyone got it but you. Its all good input regardless and I’m very grateful for each member’s feedback. THX

Triode; Darwin; AA; etc

@Doug S….
I tried to look into the brands and your accounts of them but have had some trouble finding descriptions of the Iconoclastic wires in general…. tiers, costs, etc.
maybe you could drop a link in here pointing to where one could get more info about their build and where they can be purchased.

many thanks as usual.
jim

Thanks Doug. that makes perfect sense... now that you added this added info. I was there and as you mentioned, looking for an array or tiers and not merely for the options you pointed out.

I'll get back there soon.
THX!!

I do appreciate the plus ones on iconoclast wires.

as this thread states " loom ... in 2021" its all about me catching up having been inactive or out of the loop for some time due to health and unrelated obstacles which prevented me from being more involved in the past time.

I've been a member here for nearrly 20 yrs. Tech is always on the move and there is always the hope someone will as Doug said produce products that are neither snake oil nor filled with too much 'unobtainium' or 'can't affordium'.

last time I was actively putting together or tweaking an outfit was about 2012 or so.

things change. this is merely an attempt to get myself updated as to who is who, or who is doing what, so to speak.
THX ALL. 

@Doug S
I noticed finally the cost  for each tier or perhaps better put, constructs albeit I've found nothing specific aattending to the actual 'voice' or attributes of the differing metal typess being offered... TPC; OFC; CCC.

it seems to me these subjective notes upon those factors which can not be meassured, ought to be penned. at least in general terms. otherwise why opt for an IC costing more than tripple the price of the least expensive 'entry level' link?

0more learned or experienced audio nuts than myself might be able to extrapolate from the maker's own  electronically measured findings the sonic characteristics for each bundle of Iconoclast  links but I can not . 

any input on the sonic signatures of each variation from entry level to the upper end would be sincerely welcomed!

thanks so very much. 
jim

douglas_schroeder
Jim, simply put, the three lines of cables are all designed similarly, according to modeling and measurements

Though I have not compared in my room all three, just the top of the line, Galen explained it to me as the cables having three levels of refinement/definition. There is not a skewing toward different sonic signatures, as happens when the geometry and construction as well as conductor material are changed.

The sonic signature is similar in all three, but the degree of refinement improves as one goes up the line.

blindjim>
well, that does help out. Thank you.

would you say it is likely the aspect of diminishing returns is applicable as well to the presumably good, beter, best levels of refinement inherent in each modle?


@sns
Perhaps I misunderstood Blindjim's question, I assume           d he was asking about new model cables introduced in 2021.


blindjim>
my bad. sorry. lookibng back I see how things might be misconstrued.

if I wanted to ask about current wires being considered SOTA I would have said:

Which 2021 cable looms are you using in your system? instead.

i figured the topic here asks for a wider set of feedback. input then might be on what is new, but the thrust as I inquired is on current systems using perhaps new or older means to loom an audio outfit.

in my brain it seemed ‘crystaline’.

up there too.but at times I have blind squirrels juggling knives


williewonka
@blindjim - you asked...
who makes your fav cable loom in 2021?

I like my DIY designs the best - see link :-)

blindjim>
Exact ah mundo! what are you using now. that’s all. thanks.


sns
Can attest to quality of DiY Helix design. I now exclusively use this design for all my power cords, and I've owned or demoed top of line or near top of line from Purist, Synergistic, Shunyata, Elrod, VH Audio,


blindjim>
Ditto on the brands you named having been in one of my rigs or another thru the years.

the aspect of their actual design revolving around the ‘helix’ configuration however, did escape me… then. but no longer.

a Taipan helix Alpha PC and an Elrod statement III PC remain my favs. albeit there is the occasional Virtual Dynamics, some VooDoos, and lately a pair of audio Envy I alluded to earlier. I wish I had never sold off my other Taipan Helix Alpha’s.

big THX!!

Hi Doug,
Many thanks. anecdotal and subjective feedback comprise the wealth of the rhetoric, choices, topics, who’s hat is in who’s camp, tubes vs sS and vice versa.

I sort of thought, after the fact your response would come back as you posted. No problemo.

I agree on leaning hard on personal eXP as to what is truly better and not merely different. albeit even than to convey such an account in many instances the contributing factors not being told but which are influencing the presentation, e.g., the room itself,the ancillary goods up or downstream, individual preffs, how pedantic a hobbyist is, are they gear hounds or easily satisfied? etc.,

loads of circumstances can muddy up those waters a bit or a lot when one gets him or her self sold on the whatever piece as being better or best.

best for them?

best to date?

better is the objective. of course but how much better and for what price, as cost will always be a factor for the majority of hobbyists.

the threshold of diminishing returns is a given. Only its actual impact is the question.

ultimately one has to pull the trigger on something at some point to find out where truth and honesty reside in any component. As the costs escalate just putting your finger on the trigger, let alone pulling it also escalates anxiety levels and might preclude ever truly resolving the matter..

iconoclast have sure peaked my interest so … maybe… just maybe.

we’ll see.

tremendous thanks