Who listens primarily to Redbook CD?


My primary (only, actually) source is a CEC TL5 Transport feeding an Audio Note Kit 1.1 NOS DAC through a Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme AES/EBU digital cable. They are both decked out with CT GE power cords, Synergistic Research Quantum Black fuses, Herbie's Audio Lab Tenderfeet isolation footers, plus other misc. tweaks.

Sounds great, and I have very little desire to add another source. Pretty much all the music I want is available on CD, and is usually quite cheap. I hope to upgrade to an AN factory DAC (3.1x/II, or better, would be nice), and a Teo Audio liquid metal digital cable (I have their Game Changer ICs, and absolutely love them!) in the future.

Who else is happy with Redbook CD as their primary source?
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You can’t remove 100% any errors, as they are filled in with guess work by the error correction. And the more the errors the more the wrong info is being given back.

Cheers George
I have yet to hear a streamer demo'ed to me, sound better in an a/b than good hi-end cdp playing the same album.
I would think that error correction with streaming would be much more, because it's got to come from anywhere in the world via the net. There's got to be some loses of those 1's and 0's.
Also streamers usually have smp power supplies, these them selves are massive noise polluters, and infiltrate everything
Then there's the hard drive for storage, these also error correct and are also powered by smp's.
  
At least with a cd the 1's and 0's are stamped into it bit perfect, and the only thing that can do damage are cheap lasers, they seem to error correct more than good ones.

Cheers George  
I bought an Esoteric K-01X a year ago and since then I have rediscovered all my Red Book CD’s.
I’m not sure but I think that’s maybe because like it’s predecessor the earlier X-01, it uses 8 x PCM1704 R2R mulitbit dacs for Redbook conversion.

And the X in the K-01X may designate that it also has a Delta Sigma (bitstream) dac to do SACD with.

ESOTERIC X-01: A killer Redbook player

8 x PCM1704 – SM5847AF – SM5819AF: VRDS-NEO Transport.

X-01

http://www.hifi-advice.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/esoteric-p01_vrds-neo-trans_464pix.jpg

http://www.soundstage.com/equipment/pics/200906_esoteric_x01_800w.jpg

K-01X

http://www.esoteric.jp/products/esoteric/k01x/img/f_photo02.jpg

http://www.my-hiend.com/audiotemp/2015/photo/5.7K01X/K01X0046.jpg


Cheers George




hifijones
  The 3rd step may take some time because the price of admission is still more than I’m willing to pay at the moment: the Linn CD12.

+1 and more on that. I have the CD12 MkIII last version made with the 4 x PCM1704's and HDCD PMD200, nothing comes close to it on 16/44 24/96 Redbook.
Give me a call in 3mts it could be yours hifijones, as I'm looking in new Multibit directions.

Cheers George
I found that DVD players, even the inexpensive ones, often sounded better than some dedicated cd players did due to their (often) superior error correction, etc as needed to read DVDs.

You’ll find focal length and width distant is different for each. Look at the bottom of the graph.
Each is best for it’s own format/purpose.
https://wiki.metropolia.fi/download/attachments/61608878/Comparison_CD_DVD_HDDVD_BD.svg.png?version=1&modificationDate=1355147497000&api=v2

Cheers George

teo_audio113 posts06-09-2017 2:01am
I tend to listen to redbook, for the most part, but I’m using a ladder or R2R DAC. No delta-sigma single bit DAC here.
Which makes a huge difference, IMO. When folks hear it they keep asking me how to get that incredible sound out of digital.

+ more than 1 on this teo_audio, as DSD dacs (Delta Sigma) don’t do pcm Redbook (cd) justice, as it’s just presents a facsimile of what a pcm (cd) really is.

Cheers George