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Who is the KING of MONOS?

WHO IS THE KING OF MONOS???

Mcintosh 501:
Big. Heavy. Reliable. Built like a tank. Smooth and pleasing. This chuck of metal will flow liquid sound at you all day and not even get warm. It is Fun to listen to and fun to look at. Arguably the best looking amp of them all. Some accuse it of being too laid back. Others would consider selling an appendage to obtain a pair.

Krell Evolution 600e.
Pretty. Maybe not Mac pretty but still pretty. Unlike lesser Krells it is smooth and articulate. Possibly possesses the best bass of any amplifier anywhere. Expensive. If it can be the King it should be expensive.

Cary SA 500.1
Probably has one of the best reviews ever written. Cary is said to be a perfect middle ground between Krell and Levinson. Not too laid back. Not too harsh or dry. Just perfectly nestled in the middle. Not big or heavy. A little plain to look at. Middle of group price tag. A few complaints floating around about reliability. A few complaints that Cary is cheaply made. Is it worthy of a King’s Crown? 10 Audio thinks so………

Levinson N 53.
It is pleasing to the eye. It has lots of clout. It has cost no object claims. It costs a lot of big American Dollars. It has a non typical switching power supply. Levinson is sometimes accused of being too warm. Is this the case the N53? The company has encountered a lot of turmoil in the recent past. Can it overcome the negatives and beat the rest? Will the new D technology be its demise?

Classe CA-M600.
Aesthetically pleasing but doesn’t match anything else. Another smooth operator. This amp has also been accused of being too laid back and polite. Sometimes polite is a good thing. Can it be the polite King of Monos?

Pass Labs XA600.5
Can anything negative be said for this beast. Another block of beauty that has a glowing meter. A little magic and a little hocus pocus maybe. I can see the others getting a little nervous with the Pass in the mix. If only the company would answer the phone and tell me who the dealers are. I hope the product is better than their customer communications.

Wyred4Sound SX-1000
Can it even fit in with names like this? According to the reviews and the manufacturer it can. Its Class D. Its Light. It looks good. According to a lot of people it does things Class A / AB cant. It is by far the cheapest or cost effective of the group. Can this economical wonder compete or beat any of these brutes? Will it wimper and run away with its tail between its legs? We shall see.

Let us discuss who the King should be. Let us discuss who it shouldn’t be. Who cares about price. This is a Royal group. Who is the best of the best? No one wants to hear “They all sound the same.” Don’t waste our time. These boxes have magic inside. Who has the most? Which one should we all be dreaming of when go sleepy at night?. Who is the King Of Monos?
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jafox
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Paimei: Synergy is often a term used when someone applies a bandaid in a system to compensate for a flaw elsewhere. The importance of the amp/speaker interface is not so much about synergy but rather, compatibility.

And again, contrary to the comments of one amp to suit all speakers, it's just plain silly. For Sound Lab electrostatics, I don't want any other amp than the ones I own. If I was to change to high-efficiency horn speakers or a biamped system, I would surely choose an entirely different amp. But compared to so many of the "high powered" tube amps out there with their crappy little output transformers, I will stay with the "lower powered" CAT.
jafox
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.....but you can't make him drink.
From so many lame responses here, I'd say many here have already had too much to drink. I'm with Audiofeil on this one.....STUPID THREAD!
jafox
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Paimei, I am not "with" Audiofeil at any time. However, he has far more knowledge and experience in this field than you realize. He just happens to have a low tolerance of nonsense here and his posts often reflect this.

There is no way any amp can be considered to be the top performer in any regard. It has EVERYTHING to do with the speaker to be driven. We choose a speaker that we like, that integrates well with our listening room, and then we find an amplifier that is capable of driving that speaker to its performance level.

A watts-per-channel rating often has little to do with an amp's performance. I have owned the Convergent Audio Technology (CAT) JL-3 mono amps for 6 years this month. With 16 power tubes (6550 or KT88) per mono block, it is conservatively rated at 150 w Class A. But don't let the "low" power rating fool you. It can quite significantly outperform many much higher rated amps into some speakers. Just look at the whimpy output transformers on many of these highly touted amps in this thread and compare to the CAT.

With some of these "top rated" amps, go listen to some seriously complex music with a lot of bass content at high volume. During this time, pay close attention to how the rest of the music in the mids and upper octaves maintains its integrity. With many amps, the music will crumble because the amp's power supply and output transformer can not handle the load for any given amount of time. You might be surprised that often times, the higher-rated mono-block beast-of-an-amp is not the "best" performer here. And this is one example as to why this thread is stupid as Audiofeil pointed out early on.
jafox
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No, I prefer my amp because it can handle speakers beyond the simple benign impedance. If an amp is "rated" at much higher power output, but then falls apart when trying to drive the speaker that the much lower rated amp can handle, then Houston, we have a problem. And such a higher rated amp has no business ever to be rated as your status of King.

As for amps with wimpy output transformers, I have no doubt that some low-power SET amps on high efficient speakers would easily result in higher performance than my CAT amps. I notice that there is not a single SET amp in your list. And yet, these are often the most expensive and most highly coveted/respected amps in the audiophile world.

Comparisions are a great way to draw and learn from others' experience.
I could not agree more with this.

I would be interested as to what qualifies as a "harsh" speaker. A few "odd" speaker loads out there that are often discussed here include the MBL 101 series (low sensitivity), Apogee Scintilla (1-ohm load), Sound Lab (higher impedance in the bass). The CAT amps can be configured to handle the Scintilla load. And it is one of the few amps that drives the MBL speaker with aplomb. I don't think there is a single amp in your list that can match it with these three speaker systems. Oh, you might want to add the MBL 9000 amp to your list. 8-)
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