Who has tried "TIDAL" vs other streaming applications?


Hello, I'm new to Audiogon, this is my first posting into Forums.

I enjoy streaming audio from my PC and have been using Spotify for a number of years now (college student discount to premium $5 a month). I just recently stumbled upon a App called TIDAL, that streams Lossless 16/44.1FLAC with their "HI-FI" subscription (Student $10 a month). Since I can queue up Spotify and Tidal at the same time, I was able to do an A/B and used Dire Straits Brothers in Arms. I noticed that TIDAL indeed sounds better to me but am convinced none of my family members could tell a difference. I then did an A/B with TIDAL and the actual Brothers in Arms CD, to my surprise TIDAL sounded scary close, if not just as good as the CD! This is hard for me to believe, I think I'm just trying to justify the extra cost of TIDAL on a crazy tight student budget, maybe its a placebo effect? I need to drop one of the services, but which one? I would appreciate your thoughts please... Thank you!
My system:
PC = Gaming Rig I built myself, using dedicated high quality audio card.
Krell KAV 400xi integrated
Sonus Faber Electa's with Sunfire HRS Sub
Cambridge AZUR 840C CDP/DAC
Luxman T117 Tuner
Sony SCD - C2000ES SACD Player
Kimber Silver Streak throughout  


grm

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Cerrot, I'm really curious how you got Roon to download the playlists and albums. If I could do that, I would download a couple hundred thousand tracks and then cancel my subscription to Tidal. Seriously. 

grannyring, Yes! It  IS a daily wow! The only downside is not having enough time to explore...
There is an indicator at the bottom of the screen - in the transport area. Block letters: HIFI. It will be displayed in bold white letters when in effect. 

If that bold HIFI appears, you're listening to the lossless FLAC version.

In my experience, a small percentage of Tidal tracks are not available in lossless FLAC and the HIFI indicator will be greyed out. Unless you have selected a lossy version of the service under settings. 

I've used both the Chrome webplayer and Tidal's app on my Mac with no perceived quality difference.

In Roon, there is a colored dot that appears next to the track name in the transport area at the bottom of the screen. If you click on that dot, Roon displays the "Signal Path" which gives you the resolution of the source material as well as any changes your system may make to play the track. A purple dot indicates bit-perfect playback. Roon always reports the bit-perfect status - or lack thereof - when playing a track.

Hope this helps.



@devilboy If I understand your question correctly, you will control Tidal's volume using the volume controls of the iPad. However, it you're using bluetooth to transmit Tidal music to a bluetooth device, it depends on whether the device allows volume control via bluetooth. In my case I can control using the same iPad volume controls.

Good luck.
Thinking maybe that I missed the news that Tidal was sold to Apple, I Googled who owns Tidal. 

From the Tidal website:

https://support.tidal.com/hc/en-us/articles/203055651-Who-Owns-TIDAL-

It says that,

"TIDAL is an artist-owned coalition. The founding TIDAL artists are Alicia Keys, Arcade Fire (Win Butler and Regine Chassagne), Beyonce, Calvin Harris, Chris Martin, Daft Punk, Deadmau5, Jack White, Jason Aldean, J. Cole, Kanye West, Madonna, Nicki Minaj, Rihanna, Shawn “JAY Z” Carter and Usher"


I love these artists. Some I enjoy a bit more than others but all are extremely talented. Glad they still own it. (Not that Apple owning it would be the end of the world, IMO)

Tidal is an awesome service, has an incredible library, and is a pretty good value given how much I listen to it.  Just my opinion. 
Masters are still part of the What's New/Album display on my Mac's Tidal Desktop app (ver 2.1.5.228 (W: 2.1.0--28) (NP: 2.3.26)

In addition, Tidal now identifies a Masters album with an "M" in a small box in the lower right of the album box. 

Hope this helps @grm

T.