I have the feeling to confess and you give me absolution....:)
Thanks... :)
What is my penance father, for "not being in tune" ?
Thanks... :)
What is my penance father, for "not being in tune" ?
Who else here is frugal?
If I had to describe myself as an audiophile in one word, I'd like it to be frugal. Iconoclast may also be right, but if I'm different it may be due to being frugal. There used to be a TV show called The Frugal Gourmet. To paraphrase him, the food he cooked wasn't necessarily cheap, but he'd get as much value as he could out of what he was doing.
Being an iconoclast doesn't hurt either. Listening for yourself and buying what you like, regardless of what reviewers say and how expensive something is also points us towards this.
What about you? Do you feel better saving money than spending it? Then tell us about yourself. :)
Being an iconoclast doesn't hurt either. Listening for yourself and buying what you like, regardless of what reviewers say and how expensive something is also points us towards this.
What about you? Do you feel better saving money than spending it? Then tell us about yourself. :)
Showing 10 responses by mahgister
Yes gaining the most for your money is being frugal.... I am in the obligation to be frugal indeed... But I must say the truth and the truth is I am not virtuous, nor frugal, if I love something I am sometimes a fool....:) The circumstances forced me to be virtuous, thrifty, or frugal....It is a luck for sure because I learned many things that I would have miss otherwise....Thanks to my lack of money for audio....My temperament is not so naturally wise.... :) I am like many people here, if I was able to afford it, I will buy a one million dollar audio system....I am lucky to be relatively poor, I learned much, and I enjoy what I have now and does not suffer from the need to upgrade...It is a luck to enjoy my actual audio system because I would not be able to upgrade anyway....But my passion is very hot, I will give all my money for more …. It is foolish.... But I like to say the truth.... |
erik_squires OP7I must admit that I am a bit constrained by my lack of fund....If not, I will not be so frugal....I hate to be frugal because it is not my choice....But against bad fortune good heart, I decide to create my audio system at low cost with homemade solutions...I succeed and I love my audio system now...But if I had all money I will do what I do with money, invest it in my passion for books and music and waste a good deal of it probably... What else? I dont like travels, nor money games, I dont enjoy paying women, and I dont like cars …. :) My best wishes for you... |
Geoffkait, i assume nothing , I know nothing, I only know the results of my experiments... By this last post i just wanted to give to you credit about your minimalistic option for Hi-Fi audio, that’s all... But if you want to speak about crystals, I dont know if crystals works only by vibrations absorption, or by cleaning the EMI noise also... I assume it act on the 2... But I am no scientist, i konw only the results of my experiments and that is not possible for me to justify or extrapolate any scientific explanation for and by this results … Even if i had my own opinion and impressions about that... And what I says implicate only me not you by the way... Then relax when I gives to you credit for your minimalistic option...It is that I am able to recognize when someone is on a right track... But you know what wise men says: " there is many ways that go to heaven"... :) |
geoffkait19,319 posts Like I said you are absolutely right on all counts... I have known already that electrical pollution and noise in the room and house were stupendous unbeknownst to most or underestimated by all...But even for me it is amazing how the lost by this plague has destroyed the potential of my Hi-Fi system...I dont even speak about the other 2 plagues: resonance-vibrations, and acoustical treatment of room... If someone dont want or dont need speakers it is for sure the way to go... Like you said the equation is simple: There is no substitute for signal to noise + distortion ratio. 🤗People must learn that, even those , especially those that will keep their speakers like me... The last experiment I speak about in my thread is a stupendous proof of this … My best to you and all... |
Geoffkait ,I think you are right about the noise level...If someone dont care about the acoustical difference between headphones and speakers, this is the right track to travel... But an old guy as I am like the acoustical freedom of his speakers also... The good news is I think it is possible, " in the grid", to reach relatively near, not too far behind, your quality "off the grid" system, with many precautions related to vibrations resonance, electrical embedding, and acoustical treatment and some other "tweaks"... I say "near" indeed because for the purity of the sound frequencies, the best speakers will always be most of the times only slightly behind the best headphones; but this acoustical, atmospheric freedom of the sound waves travelling to my body, out of the brain, we must recognize that this is indeed an another world... My best from my past to your future... :) |
If frugality is a consequence of wise choices, this is good... If frugality is a goal I dont think so... What is good to cultivate is the art of wise choices, frugal or not....What is a wise choice for a passionate man does not always appear frugal to his friend...Passion or love must superseded frugality in some way or another in life... And yes many are frugal without being cheap, but it is better to be not frugal in ALL aspect of life, and that has motivated my rant about the word... My best to you ... I apologize for these many words of mine and sometimes yes we must perhaps be frugal with words... :) |
ivan_nosnibor Thanks for your kind and indulgent word for my rant... If I can add something, i truly respect all people, frugal or not, i hate only the word because the act appear to me, more often than not, like an obsession without love... And imagine this horrible epitaph : " He lives frugally and die frugally" ... Tthis is an horrible death poem, and even for a Saint this is not beautiful, except for a not so loving monk perhaps?... Know yourself and be it to the end, passionately ... |
When we speak about passion and hobbies the question makes not so much sense...Interesting question perhaps like many others possible questions... But am I frugal, in love, in music, in passion for books? No... Not at all, I am the contrary of frugal with my passions, but I cannot always be carefree with money if I want to eat tomorrow... Hermit, saint, yogi are frugal and must be ….This is not a virtue at all, only an instrument for their inner work, only love and passion are virtues... And yes if I could, I would immediately buy my Berning ZOTL dreamed amplifier...This is not frugal expanse for me...I will not buy a 170,000 dollars amplifier tough, not because I am frugal, but because I know that true hi-fi is not reducible only to quality of electronic components or price... I am constraint by circonstances to be frugal with my money, not being able to afford dreamed Hi-Fi, except by my homemade tweeks with an under 1000 bucks audio system now... I dont complaint, I dont feel now anymore the urge to upgrade, my system being at his top potential, thanks to homemade solutions...But this is not because I am frugal, this is because I am forced to economic improvised solutions...Indeed even if I dont feel now the urge nor the frustration, being so passionate with sound and music, I would buy other costly Hi-Fi components for sure if I could... Even if it is absolutely not necessary, I would buy them, however my system dont frustrate me at all now...Thanks to my essentials tweaks...But I am passionate, not frugal... Frugality is not my choice nor my dreamed being state...I am not a cheap monk nor a great one...Life is too much a great act, not a cheap one...There is no frugality in passions, and frugality is a quality for great monks, not book lovers, nor music lovers, not lovers... Life is not frugal...Life is an illuminating foolishness say the wise... The saint that gives by love all his possessions is not frugal... I hate frugality... :) |