which turntable or how to convert to balanced phono setup?


Im a total noob with vinyl please bear with me,

I just purchased a b stock Teac PE 505 balanced phono preamp to replace a buggy Gold Note PH5

im looking for a turntable upgrade to run balanced  with an mc cart

so aside from those tables that have xlrs outs,

is it just a matter of finding a din to xlr tone arm cable?  or is there more to it?

I dont understand the differences between tables like mine that have RCA outs (technics 1200 gr2)

and those with "tone arm" cables

 

 

 

audiocanada

Showing 2 responses by elliottbnewcombjr

Unless a problem exists, I would not needlessly complicate a home audio system with xlr.

We run out of things to ’improve’ don’t we.

I tried xlr, and found it a waste of time, but at least I now know.

our home residential systems, the majority of us, we do not have the interference problems that xlr can prevent, nor do we have long cable runs. In fact, I tried 25 lf xlr out from Oppo in video system to preamp in audio system, and had a weird noise, changed to cheap 25 lf rca/rca,worked just fine. Nothing special about that Oppo to my ears, I sold it.

I like that (most, not all) xlr connectors snap/lock in so they will not be inadvertently disturbed. I changed all my RCA to locking rca connectors to prevent that problem.

One of my components, the signal strength of the xlr out was noticably a bit louder than it’s rca out. I didn’t need it, but some, not all, xlr out are slightly higher signal strength. Another, the strength of the xlr and rca outs seemed identical. I didn't measure, just saying, it might be, and if so, it may or may not be beneficial.

xlr may or may not be properly implemented by various OEM, there are standards, so you cannot assume .....

OP

this page has 6 cable options, just click on each box, study the ends of the cables

https://pro-jectusa.com/product/connect-it-ds-series-audio-cables/

they show mini xlr, they do not show, but mini-din connectors exist also. This is a VPI junction box, it is to convert a tonearm with mini din to rca and separate ground

https://houseofstereo.com/products/vpi-industries-junction-boxes?variant=42106729791637&utm_term=&utm_campaign=**LP+pMax&utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=ppc&hsa_acc=4188007760&hsa_cam=19959714947&hsa_grp=&hsa_ad=&hsa_src=x&hsa_tgt=&hsa_kw=&hsa_mt=&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21818316948&gbraid=0AAAAACNju7149wG8-gb_AwvQMznX9Yl-G&gclid=Cj0KCQjwjdTCBhCLARIsAEu8bpIU5VLu9ZNAmtrpanOQp-_ikzLWBFBXRJLVlM7m-6CjzF8I9TmR9HAaAtdNEALw_wcB

they make an optional XLR version, look on the same page

I had my tonearm re-wired  from individually soldered litz wires to use mini-din out

from this (silk insulation wore off, hum developed)

 

 

to this

 

Your TT has a separate ground -  connector/terminal and a pair of female rca jacks for L+/- and R+/- Note: removable headshells, fixed arms, the headshells/cartridges only have 4 pins/wires, the 5th wire, the isolated ground is for the body of the arm itself to prevent hum.

Some TT models come pre-wired with a 5 pin din connector (5 male pins recessed/protected in the arm post most often), the 5th wire is the tonearm body ground

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Others have an OEM provided phono cable with connectors and provisions for L+/-; R+/- and a ground for the unit which is actually grounding the tonearm body.

A separate din/rca phono cable is simply a 5 pin female connector on one end (goes into the bottom of the arm post); a pair of rca +/- and an integral separate ground wire that is allowed to exit the common cover at both ends for individual connecting to industry standard ground terminals. Construction and material choices and length is based on considerations of both capacitance and inductance.

Many times over the years, I have successfully improvised with a separate common green wire for ground and any stereo rca interconnect cable.