Which REL subs for ProAc One SCs?


Bass was fine in my 11x12x8 room. I'm moving into a new home with living room, dining room, and kitchen all forming one space with 12 foot ceilings, and a hall going off to one side at the kitchen.

I'm hoping subs will let me keep the One SCs which I love, and it seems RELs are popular.

Which ones should I use, and do I need two?

Thanks
Jim

Music Reference RM-9, Conrad-Johnson PV5, Creek CD 43 Mk II, Scott tuner.
river251

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Thanks much for the replies guys. I'm so glad to hear that I may be able to still use the One SCs. I love their tonality and imaging. I'll start looking for a REL sub.

With your setups, you did not pass the lows to the monitors, just the subs? I can see this would put much less demand on the ProAcs.

I only listen to 2 channel music, jazz.

Jim
Thanks again guys.

Sc53 is the Neutrik made by REL or is it separate?

Erik, I wish I coujld afford a D30R right now. I've spent some time listening to the D40R, it was magical. Has to be in my future though.

Bob, yes I am worried about that stress. While sending some bass energy to the sub will help, still it's a big space and I do listen loud. My RM9 will easily overwhelm the One SCs. I guess I'll just have to find out. If I end up selling the ProAcs the sub will be useful anyway. I wonder if it would be useful to set the high pass at a higher frequency? The woofers in the One SC are small.

Velodyne makes the SMS-1. Don't know if it has a parametric or if it differs from Hsu's network. What is the advantage of a built in high pass vs. the REL with an external?


Thank you,
Jim
Problem solved!

Sarah (Sc53) noticed I said I wished I could find some 2:5s. Well she saw a pair for sale here and let me know and I now own an absolutely flawless pair of 2.5s in oak, purchased from Frank in Phoenix. A much more satisfactory solution than trying to get the One SCs to handle the big area with their small woofers and a sub.Thanks again for all the comments everyone.

Thanks Sarah and Frank!
Jim
Thanks so much everyone for the great help.

Bob, so I'm on a hunt for a crossover. I knew about the SMS but not it's cutoff range. Makes me think I may have to choose between having a too-low cutoff or going full range on the ProAcs. I wonder if there is also the consideeration of how high the subs work well, if I'm trying for a high cutoff.

Any ideas on where to find a crossover with high enough range? Perhaps I could have one built?

Jim
Rhljazz, good memory! I do go to Phoenix HiFi, but live a little ways off in Las Cruces, NM. I have talked about going to Phoenix HiFi in this forum though, so good eye.
They are nice guys with lots of lovely speakers and I always leave their acutely aware of my earlier career choices :-).

Jim
Bob, this is from the SMS-1 manual. What do you think about being able to find a good crossover with the ProAcs and a sub?

www.velodyne.com
16 - Digital Drive SMS-1 User’s Manual
All six presets contain the following fields:
•
Low Pass Crossover Frequency and Slope
– Adjust the upper limit of your subwoofer’s frequency
response. Select a crossover setting, in increments of 1, between 15Hz and 199Hz and slope at 6, 12,
18, 24, 30, 36, 42 and 48 dB/octave.
Bob, thanks so much for the great info and pointers. I'll have some work to do to thoroughly check them out.

With the RM9 I felt I was pushing the One SCs to their conservatively safe limit in my 11x12 room. I think if I try to run them full range in my much bigger new space it will be too much for them, so I do need to find a satisfactory way to divert the lows to take advantage of 1/f power spectra. I also agree that 80 is too low due to the small woofers in the ProAcs. As well as that first order is not going to be decisive enough. I took a glance at Marchand and that looks promising. I run JL in my car, and the amp has a good tone, if dry compared to my tubes. Shouldn't matter on the sub.

I do wish it was not so difficult to find a very nice pair of Response 2.5s.

Thanks so much.

Jim
Sc53, I am in New Mexico. Could you drop me an email about these? I might drive across the country if we can work it out. Then I would sell my (perfect, Yew wood) One SCs and stands.

Thanks. Jim
jkk251@gmail.com (hope audiogon allows this)