Which is a better choice? New, or used preamp?


So I've been doing a lot of research, and am interested in people's opinions about a new vs. used tube preamps...

I'm looking for a good quality tube pre, maybe around $1500. People have recommended some new products (Doge an YS for example) in that price range, but I can't help but wonder if I'm not going to get a better performance with a used pre in that price range that used to sell new for maybe $2500-$3500?

That would be a 10-15 year old pre probably, so has the quality advanced such that the YS could present a better soundstage, for example?

Thanks,

Michael
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Showing 2 responses by larryi

There probably has been no fundamental change in tube technology in 60 yrs. There have been some improvements in convenience (e.g., remote control), but, the circuitry remains the same, and as for parts quality, there are plenty of older parts that beat anything available today.

When it comes to modern vs. older tube designs, it is more a matter of voicing than technology. Many current tube linestages are being specifically designed and voiced to be more like current solid state units. It is very much a matter of taste and system matching as to whether this is good or bad.

If you are looking at something 10-15 years old as the used alternative, I would say that you would not be giving up anything at all, in terms of sound, and would be way ahead when it comes to a dollar for dollar comparison. The only issue would be whether some of the components in the older unit have deteriorated. Specifically, one would be looking at the electrolytic capacitors in the power supply. At 10-15 years, these will probably still have quite a bit of life remaining. If they do go bad after some time, any competent repair facility can replace those parts. That is one of the positive attributes of tube gear--all of it can be serviced and kept up to original quality (it is often harder to service solid state because replacement transistors can be really hard to come by).
I am not familiar with the sound of Sonic Frontier gear, but, your description of your preference would suggest something other than Audio Research and even BAT. The Audio Research gears tends toward a quite lean sound (much more so than most solid state gear).

I suggest looking at Joule, Conrad Johnson, VAC, Cary, Jadis and Lamm. There are a lot of obscure brands that are terrific, though MUCH harder to find used, such as, Audiospace (a Hong Kong brand that has been putting out great gear for a long time), Fi, Air Tight,and de Havilland.