which el 84 amp or integrated

For sound quality, reliability, ergonomics and tube life, and can't think of one better than the Music Reference RM10MKII (which I will always regret having sold).

The baby is killer- I would a/b it against whatever else you get and make sure the price increase is justifiied. IMO- the baby is just one of those amps that does everything right. It is better than their el34 and I have preffered it to many mentioned above. Spend $100 replacing the tubes and give it a good listen.

I've owned a Stingray for 2 years now and really love it for lots of reasons. I don't know anything about the speakers your using, but I can say that it matches up nicely with my Audio Physic Libra's, not efficient speakers at 86 db, 4 ohms. It drives them with power to spare. The amp is also very flexible with bypass switch, record in/out, all features I use. I have noticed quite a few Stingrays for sale too lately, I've wondered if the reason is because there's a new model out. They weren't always this plentiful. I paid $1300 for mine 2 years ago, I'd have no problem losing 100 bucks if I decided to sell it now, it's worth it. But it would only be to buy a VTL IT-85. BTW, after much experimenting stock tubes work best, Ei's for EL84's, JJ's dont cut it...IMHO

thankyou all for all the great sugestions, i finally found what i think is my perfect el84 amp for the price.....i really wanted a luxman but could not afford that for an office amp and my wife almost made me sleep in the garage for considering it.I looked at the stingrays,RM 10,eicho,jolida and just when i was about to pull the trigger on a jolida i talked to Will Vincent and he sold me one of his personal amps that was an el84,triode wired, 18 watts per channel and just a beautiful amp and design(a highly tweaked version of a dynaco st35 )... and if it does not work out i might find myself owning 2 or 3 like Geraldm121....now to find a pre amp ,either a jusicy music peach or a tad 150,if anyone has a better idea ,i am open for sugestions....again big thankyou to all who responded to help me on my musical quest..........

The George Wright 15 watt proto-type currently up for sale looks real interesting if I were looking for an EL84 integrated and 15 watts were sufficient (91-92db/ 8ohm speakers) I would think it would a real good amp to try.