Where do you go after a Dynaudio C1 ?


I have been scouting for a pair of speakers to replace my Dynaudio C1, which after many years of enjoyment I now find voiced to relaxed for my taste. I am looking for speakers that comes as close as possible to the raw sound and timbre of voices and instruments with minimal house coloration, speakers that energize a room to give an electrifying feel of presence, speakers that convey both refined subtlety and explosive dynamics with effortlessness. This have to be smallish, either a standmount or small footprint floorstander, must work in condo-type living room, and synergize with high power rowland amp I use.

Two speakers I have listened to and consider top candidates are the Magico V2 and Focal Utopia Diablo. These seem to possess the attributes I seek. Given my parameters, what other speakers do you think I should consider? Buying new with budget $15,000 max, less the better. Please note purchase will be in the Philippines, where most small specialty brands are not available.
noelpastor

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SCM7 is a very small speaker, costing $1k new. Comparing it to the C1 ($7k) may not be a good idea. Listen to an SCM40 ($4k) and then compare it to a C1 in whatever parameters you would like to.

I suggested the SCM11 approach only to get an idea about what an ATC sounds like.
I have used dynaudio extensively and liked them but as you said it is voiced. It doesn't convey the truest timbres and rawness. I auditioned around 70 speakers trying the replace he dynaudio and the only 2 speakers did it for me, rockport mini and ATC. Finally it was ATC that really sounded closest to the real instruments and voices. The tone and timbre was absolutely spot on combined with a honesty that was too correct to ignore. Please listen to an ATC before taking a call.

Today I use a Tannoy prestige Turnberry SE and it has a very similar accuracy of tone but it is juicier, more technicolor rich. Highly recommended. For your budget you can get the Kensington which is the Alnico magnet version, more neutral and faster.
Mike I did it over a period of 3 weeks. It was a continuous spree. I tried to listen to every possible speaker in the range of $2k to $8k which available with the dealers around my country and neighbouring countries. In the process I also listened to many more expensive speakers but nothing could do what the ATC could.

PMC is said to be from the school as ATC but I am sorry but they are far too coloured to be even compared to ATC. Dyns are much more neutral than PMC.
You are right Noelpastor, I could not even like a Evidence Temptation when I went through the same situation as you.

I could suggest you another approach in the absence of an ATC demo. You can buy a simple SCM11 from the used market for about $1.2k and listen to it. I preferred it to the C1. With ATC the sonic qualities remains the same whether you buy their entry level speaker or their top end speaker, only the scale, depth and bass extension improves. So if you do not like their entry level speakers you will not like even their highest end speaker and on the contrary if you like their high end speakers you will almost equally like their entry level models. Actually with ATC there is no "entry level", they are just meant for different room sizes and purpose (near field, mid field etc). Their drivers are not made to match a price point (unlike most other driver brands), rather they just build a driver for a certain application using all their knowledge. So, if you do not mind doing this simple exercise of getting a SCM11 (preowned) you will know exactly if it matches your taste.
Here is an SCM11 for sale for just $950:
http://app.audiogon.com/listings/atc-scm11-monitor-speakers-cherry-finish
Not really Noelpastor, you have not mispresented Dyns. In fact all Dyns that I have heard Audience 52, 52SE, Focus 140, 220, Contour 1.3SE and C1 all of them are great speakers. They really give an audiophile the reason to be in this hobby. Just because you pointed out about their "special" voicing which I too found out after living with them for quite some time I thought of pointing you in the direction that I found after a lot of research.
Noelpastor, you are very correct, the C1 was a big step up from the 1.3se, but I also thought it has more of the Dynaudio voice. It was especially noticeable in string instruments. In fact the higher one goes in the Dynaudio chain the more the voice, just an observation.