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When will there be decent classical music recordings?

With "pop" music the recordings are such that you can hear the rasp of the guitar string, the echo of the piano, the tingle of the percussion ... and so on .... and in surround sound.
Surround sound is brilliant in picking out different instruments that would otherwise have been "lost" or merged with the other sounds.
Someone will say well that is not how you listen at a concert, but that is just archaic. As a friend said many years ago to me ... whats wrong with mono?!
I am sure Beethoven or whomever would have been excited if they could have presented their music in effectively another dimension.
I have yet to come across any classical recording that grabs me in the way it should, or could. Do they operate in a parallel universe musicwise?
I used to play in an orchestra so I am always looking out for the "extra"  presence in music ... in amongst it, not just watching and listening from a distance


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oregonpapa
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There's HiFi .... and then there's music. 

HiFi:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi3OGE6t7ws

Music:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU2P3aRk8ko

HiFi:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmg5PACkAz8

Music:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgn7VfXH2GY

HiFi:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tly3aLdFeM

Music:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jKP5qPOFxk

Not knocking any of it. All of the above can be found in my LP collection. Just pointing out that there is a difference.

OP


 
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I have several uniquely recorded albums (LP's) on the "Repeat" label. They were recorded without using microphones in producing the master tapes.

According to the liner notes, "all musical instruments employed being equipped with specially-designed transducing systems which convert the energy of the original sound source into a corresponding electrical signal. This output is then fed directly through the recording mixer and onto tape."

These recordings have the most "presence"  of individual instruments in my entire collection, including any of the so-called audiophile recordings I own. Do they sound "better?"  Well, yes, from a "presence" standpoint ... but there is something that is just not right. Oh yes, they have the "wow" factor, but as a steady diet? No way. Totally interesting though. 

Here's the titles if your intersted in tracking them down:

1. Western Swing - Noel Boggs on steel guitar along with fiddles, guitar, drums and bass. 

2.   Rural Rythm - Fiddle, fife guitar and bass. 

3.  Borodin string quartet #2  in D Major. The Da Sallo String Quartet. 

4.  Dvorak Quintet in G, Opus 77. Two violins, Viola, Cello and bass.

Anyone of these LP's will satisfy the most detail and presence audiophile freak on the planet. Really fun to listen to ... for the first few times. Great for demonstrating your stereo to friends. Lot's of "wow" factor. 

So, all of that "extra presence" the OP is seeking is/was available, but a steady diet of it? I don't think so. 

Jump on this one, guys: 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Norman-Whistler-Ted-Nash-Rural-Rhythm-Repeat-Records-RS-300-4-Dee-Ford-/1219...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NORMAN-WHISTLER-THE-RURAL-RYTHM-MASTERS-RURAL-RYTHM-VINYL-LP-REPEAT-RECORDS-...


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