When choosing new Speakers, what matters most to you?


When auditioning new speakers have you ever listened to a pair you thought you really liked only to realize you didn’t like them at all after seeing their measurements/specifications? And I’m not talking about speakers that would be too difficult for your electronics to drive but rather, you just didn’t like their waterfall plot, or their frequency response or some other measurement even though subjectively, you loved the way they sounded? Conversely have you ever listened to a pair of speakers you did not care for only to change your mind after seeing their specs?
 

Assuming speakers can be easily driven by your home electronics, in other words, no compatibility issues related to sensitivity or impedance, what is the single most important thing you look for when finding speakers you’ll enjoy listening to? How do you go about confirming the speakers you buy will be enjoyable to listen to in your home system?

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Except any decent speaker review would include a range of measurements both on axis and off axis, and if they have good equipment can give you an idea of total energy (estimated room curve). It is not perfect, but if you learn how to read those graphs, you can learn a lot about how it will interact with your room. You can also identify things that will almost always be a problem.

Bought a pair of speakers once that sounded great on demo, at least with what they were demoed with. Stupid me. If I had seen the measurements first, I would never have bought them. Got them home and no position, no toe-in, nothing would make them sound right with a wide range of music. Sometimes brilliant, sometimes just something wrong. Found out later that there was significant frequency response/directivity issues.

 

Learned my lesson. I never bought speakers again without having measurements even if that limited what I could buy. There are just too many things that can be done wrong in a speaker, driver resonance, port resonance, cabinet resonance, frequency response, distortion, distortion over volume, directivity issues, thermal compression, less than ideal cross-over design, etc. When listening to new speakers, there are so so many variables, that is hard enough to say "I like these", let alone pick up on the design flaws that may only become self evident with some music, and then being new speakers you think is is me, is it the room, is it the amp?

 

Speakers are one area where measurements are really critical. It is not going to tell you if you like it or not for the long time, but it can very much highlight flaws you may not encounter in early listening that you will eventually not be able to live with. At a more fundamental level, directivity plots will help you know how it will work out in your room, the range of toe-in you can use, even whether compared to your existing speakers they may be darker or brighter. Let's not forgot amplifier interaction as well.

 

When you write it down, you realize that buying speakers without any measurement is a really risky proposition.

 

In 65 years, I have never bought a non-American owned, non-Union made car. Not a whole lot of people can say that, but it’s one thing I can take to the grave and be proud of. At least I tried.

 

Used to drive a Toyota Camry. It had more American content than any other car manufactured at the time.

Even they will tell you that 75% of gm vehicles are now built in mexico and canada in non union plants.

Do you believe everything you are told?  Most GM vehicles sold in the US are manufactured in the US. Not all, but >50%. I don't have a handle on Mexico, but would expect, and a quick Google indicates all or close to all of their facilities in Canada are union shops. GM has the highest percentage of US content in its US made vehicles. GM sell AND makes more cars in China that the US now. For clarity, they are sold and made there.

Passenger car MFG is moving out of the US and Canada because the sales are not there, and overall costs are lowest near your customers. Mexico can ownership is growing. Pickups and SUVs, are where the sales are in the US, and there is still strong MFG in the USA of those.

Another point, is it is best to look at dollars, not total numbers. It is lower cost vehicles being shifted into production in the Mexico and other lower cost centers, higher dollar vehicles not so much.

 

@nitrobob , started to type a response, but too many threads are going off the rail with politics. I suggest starting a new thread. I will just say that I support local when possible, but I will not reward incompetence long term. At some point "support local" turns into "abuse my good will". I won't accept the latter.