Whats the FATTEST sounding Tube amp to warm up Lean speakers?


What would you say is the fattest, warmest fullest sounding Tube amp to fatten up
Merlin VSM's?

They are 8 ohm, and easy to drive. 30wpc would do.

From my understanding, through reading here, the Famous match with AtmaSphere s30 actually doubles up on the natural detailed and spacious yet lean character of the Merlins.

Which Amp would do the opposite - be a little forgiving and sweet in the higher mids and fatter and fuller in the lower mids?

Thanks
dumbeat

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Sure- the Jouls is known to be a favorite match by the designer, however, im trying to counter the speaker's philosophy here, so it is my thought that the Jouls is actually going to emphasize the leanness of the speaker, not counter it. Or Bobby P wouldn't have used it.
Getting tomorrow an eq i ordered, see what that does in small touches, a db here and there can maybe fix it.
4425- The Merlins are a marvelous example of detail and space. a little warming up in the low mids is all i need. Otherwise perfect for my listening levels and listening position. I don't want to start a goose chase. IM happy with 80% off what this speaker can do...
Hello Mr. Atmasphere (what is your name?). Glad you jumped in!

I did all the things you mentioned. Well, i need to clarify.
The VSM don’t really lack that much in the low end. They are quite surprising down below 50hz for a 6.5" driver.

Where they do lack, in my personal opinion, is the low mids. Anywhere between probably 400 or 350 down to around 60.
From many years working at the recording studio i have quite some experience with different reference monitors, all claim to be flat and non hyped. They all have a lot more information in that area. is it "True"? i don’t know what truth is, i just want to sit back and have some chesty warm honey in addition to the great high freq detail and wonderful space and field that the VSM do provide, Thats why i insist on finding a solution with them and not without them. I want to tailor them to my liking.
To me their balance right out of the box is bright and lean. I don’t have to mix on them so i allow myself to alter their "Truthfulness" and make them my own.

That is the reason i am looking for other parts in the chain to bring me closer. That’s part of the fun in loving to listen to music. We have different listening tastes just as much as we have any other taste i suppose.

I heard amazing things about your Amps and i am close to trying your s30. However you say its not going to alter the freq balance of the speaker itself. But i still want to try it. Most of my peers in the recording and mixing world are completely unaware of the Audiophile world and so was I until recently, so i came here to learn.

I have 35 years of obsessing over Studio gear and obtaining it, but The audiophile world is new for me. As they say, "the cobbler walks barefoot". I made many records and invested in the recording aspect but never in the "listening for fun" aspect,

So here I am, trying to tailor for myself the perfect listening situation with less consideration to "Correctness" as it were.

A word about Bobby RIP. I think he was a total genius, and i admire his speakers. I Just allow myself to "Bend" the method, just like I abuse gear at the recording studio to suit my taste, no 2 people hear the same...

Thanks again and i would very much like to hear your input, as, again, Im new here,

Thanks!
Rea
Interesting. How do you find the sound difference between the Atma and the Pass?
What about slightly Under Biasing the output Tubes? Would that take some of the "Bite" off?
Would that damage the Tubes or amp or anything else?
Thing is this speaker appeals to me in many ways but not all.

Since this is the biggest most cumbersome piece in the chain, im trying to adjust to it before i give up and continue schlepping more speakers that may or may not work in my room... But essentially of course you are right...
Just fired up the Joule electra 100 amps. Wow- what a sound!
Im starting to be happy. I think the Merlins are an acquired taste... But the 15" Sub i bought definitely helps for real earth shaking when needed. I just need to add the EQ for some sweetening and im a happy camper.
OK- The Joules Electra 100’s and the Merlins are the F&^%$n combination.
It sounds RIGHT!
This is a marriage that did not go sour. Wow!
Thanks. Went with Joule Electra. 
Sounds great. A bit noisy and a bit fussy but worth it for now. When summee comea ill need to replace them with cool running amps but for nyc winter they double as my space heaters.