What was wrong with the P-mount ?


So, as some of you may gather, I know very little about turntables. I mean, I know the general physics, the RIAA curve, cartridge loading, stuff any one can pick up from a book.

Sometimes I think of getting into vinyl, especially with a store right across the street, the new Techniques turntables as well as old and new Luxmans or Yamahas, and then I remember the cartridges and all the issues of setting them up correctly, cleaning the vinyl, carefully holding the LP and I return to my digital only lifestyle.

One thing I was thinking about in all of this was, what happened ot the whole P-mount industry? Perfectly reasonable idea to me. Fixed dimensions for the cartridge, adjust the tracking force, and bam, done.

What went wrong?
erik_squires

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Eric when you’re buying new Technics turntable like SL1200G or SL1200GR (those are the best you can get) a cartridge adjustment is very easy, because plastic overhang gauge is included. This is how it works and you don’t need a P-Mount cartridge.

There is only ONE thing you have to check, it’s position of the stylus tip, it must be right under the mark on the overhang gauge.

Just buy yourself a brand new Technics from the store with warranty and be happy, it’s great turntable if you can afford SL1200GR at least (or G for much higher price).

I don’t like Rega and all that belt drive crap they are selling for higher price than perfect Technics SL1200GR ($1700 in USA).

If you need a decent MM cartridge for your Technics i can not only offer you some of the best MM, but i could mount and align it for you not only with Technics overhang gauge, but also with Dr.Feickert if you want Baerwald alignment method instead of Technics method. I’m sure some fellow audiophiles can do the same for you. I own a few Technics turntables myself (and many others).



Fixed dimensions for the cartridge, adjust the tracking force, and bam, done.

Fixed only for one tonearm if the P-Mount cartridge and Tonearm are from the same manufacturer. When you switch P-Mount cartridge between different arm there is nothing fixed (you will have to connect wires to P-Mount adapter just like with any conventional cartridges), you will have to adjust overhand for each tonearm (they are different). Also you can’t twist the cartridge in the headshell when you want to change alignment method from Stevenson to Baerwald for example.

What was the ultimate P-Mount system ?
I think Technics SL1000 mk3D is ultimate, this system is factory calibrated and all you need is to insert a Technics P-mount cartridge, very simple. Tonearm and arm board is one piece, simply amazing. Instead of Technics P-mount MC cartridge i would add Technics p205c mk4 MM.

Technics SL1000 mk3D is very nice, indeed. 







I will have to find P-Mount adaptor for my Technics P-205c mk4 cartridge.
Thinking about this or that
Any comments ? 
It’s my first P-Mount @lewm
Looking at the catalog i think Technics P-mount 205 mk4 is standard ?
B&O looks different
I can not comprehend, fathom, or understand why any serious audiophile would engage the use of a P-mount cartridge in a Music Reproduction System it is just a compromise offering no improvement, benefit, or advantage.

The hype started with P-Mount cartridge made by Technics, it was the best cartridge from this brand. Actually it was made in two versions: P-Mount and Headshell Integrated. Audiogon is full of information and rave reviews about P-Mount version, you can easily find and read. Search for Technics p100c mk4 It was long time ago, but seems like people were crazy about this cartridge, it was MM. You can find statements like "the best MM ever made". Nobody cares that it was P-Mount, it was easy to use with P-Mount adapter like this.  

Another version of the same cartridge was headshell integrated. personally i like headshell integrated cartridges, i owned many Technics, these two were my favorite (before i have found much better cartridges). 

At that time almost everyone tried to say that P-Mount is better than headshell integrated version. People paid crazy amount of money to VdH who personally refurbished those overpriced P-Mount Technics p100c mk4 samples for audiogon members. 

Nowadays people still ready to invest over $2000 in this Technics Pmount p100c mk4 (if the condition is good). 

In the 80's Technics released mk4 version in 205 series.
The EPC-205c mk4 is so cute, i enjoyed it, this is where i tried and compared original, jico sas, axel's refurbished ... 

Because i like the design of the 205 series i bought my first P-Mount version of this red cartridge (P-205c mk4), don't know why, it was hard to resist, we will see if i'm lucky with the damper this time. 

Well, i was trying to say that the hype about P-Mount cartridge nowadays was just because of the Technics top models, they are simply not available in conventional version.