What's wrong with Thiel?

Glad you've heard what you condemn, 9rw - only problem is, you don't offer your own opinion of them. As for refuting the remainder of my 'fine' arguments 'rather easily', well, I guess you must enjoy keeping us in suspenders. ;^)

IMO, Thiels will always attract the kind of negative attention this thread was started about, mostly because they do what they do so very well, and are quite successful in the market as a result. There is perpetual room in the high end for those who relish rooting against the overdog. Love 'em, hate 'em, or indifferent to 'em as speakers, the fact remains that were Thiel not so preeminent in the industry, they wouldn't be a target for this sort of thing. They're not the enemy, folks.

Yes, the Thiels require a quality amp, and Porsche's require high test. Hardly as demanding as some other speakers, like certain Apogees. There are some relatively inexpensive amps up to the job. However, the Thiels will be transparent enough to appreciate better quality stuff. One needs to use the appropriate tools for the job. As far as needing particular cables to tone down a problem, I beg to differ. I have used the rather inexpensive and fairly neutral (it's all relative) Straight Wire with much success for many years. As for Sterophile's testing procedures and recommendations I'm sure most everyone here is sophisticated enough to know tht Zaikesman was right on. I can hardly wait untill the time when everything worked perfectly all the time. Till then I'll suspend my move to Utopia. Even very expensive luxury cars have recalls. I'd venture to say that Thiel probably has had less defective products leave their house than most others in the industry. In the mean time I'm content knowing I'm dealing with a company that makes a top quality product and has the best people offering the best customer service in the industry. Just ask anyone who has ever dealt with Shari at Thiel.

this thread is exactly like i was thinking of, i think i learn more about thiel.
After some lisening i am happy with it.
I think i buy the cs 2.3, i know it's perhaps dificult speaker, but also i think they will leaave me a room for future upgrade of ampflication and source.
many thanks

Good luck.

Ronip, you'll love the 2.3's (I loved mine until I replaced them with the 6's). To answer your question, you may want to check out the MIT speaker cables (Joe Abrams sells a lot here on Audiogon and is a class act) to go with those -- it's a match made in heaven. Plus, listen to Tubemiser and check out some acoustical treatments -- that is a good idea with any set-up. Good luck.