What's wrong with classical music on vinyl?

Dear Michael:*** " has very little dynamic range. All of the non-classical music you list is very limited in dynamic range and as a result can ... " ***
*** " The rubber surrounds on my woofers ripple visibly .. " ***, *** " And yes, I've tried it with minimal volume, to test the feedback theory, and with the same results.. " ***

The problem that you are experienced is a typical resonance frecuency mismacht between tonearm/cartridge combo. That's all. With that kind of tonearm that you have you have to be sure that the resonance frecuency between the tonearm and cartridge it be in the 8 to 12 Hz, better: 10 to 12Hz. Maybe you have to change your tonearm, your cartridge or both.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.

Eldartford: ***** " I go back to about 1953 with my own systems, and used others before that. " *****

The fact that you drive a car since 1953 don't means that, today, you are a " competition racing driver ".

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.

Dear friends: Sufentanil only need some help for he can enjoy the music reproduction through his analog rig, that's all.
He told us: "The rubber surrounds on my woofers ripple visibly.. " and " And yes, I've tried it with minimal volume, to test the feedback theory, and with the same results ".

Sufentanil, I insist in that it is probably a mismatch between the tonearm/cartridge combo and as a result on it you can have to change your tonearm or your cartridge or both.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.

Dear Eldart: *** " real world where surface noise is the major sonic deficiency of LPs . " *** I have to agree with Albert : *** " However it is wrong to make such statements based on your inexperience and hold it up as truth. " ***

Eldart surface noise is not ( by any standars ) the MAJOR sonic deficiency of LPs. Maybe because your inexperience you think that, but is totally wrong.

*** " What is the separation spec for your phono pickup (at various frequencies)? " ***
Today this is not a critical issue in the sound reproduction of a LPs. BTW, we need, at least, 20 db on this spec for to have a very good sound reproduction. Almost any cartridge reach that spec: today is common to have 35 db on that spec, one of my cartridges: Allaerts MC2 Finish is over 70 db: yes, you read well: 70 db. I know that the CD wins in this spec, so what: the sound reproduction of a CD is always inferior to the LP.

*** " measured the signal to noise ratio of the LP medium. " *** *** " and say that there is no surface noise generated in your superb phono playback system. " ***

There is no dude that the CD has a greater dynamic range/signal to noise than the LP rig ( Albert the fact that you don't heard the surface noise does not mean that does not exist. Exist and is there in your audio sound reproduction system. If you think that really does not exist in your system then I can tell you that you have a problem in your system resolution. ), but these two specs can't tell any one that the CD is better than the LP.

You choose specs than can't support your statement that the CD is superior to the LP.

For the people that really know about music and really know about music reproduction at home: the CD is a inferior medium of sound reproduction and far away from the LP. One of the reasons is that the frecuency response of the CD is cut abrupt at 22.1 khz, this not only generate a high ringing on the sound reproduction but it causes that the music harmonics totally disappear, if for you this phenomenon is ok then I can understand your statements.
For me and for any music lover that phenomenon is out of argument. There are other issues, like the jitter, only 16 bits, etc....

Dear Eldart, I have some years in the analog/digital design: right now I have a phono preamp ( no, I'm not on sale and I'm not on audio business. ) that beats any phono preamp in the audio market and I have, too, a digital player that beats Emm labs, Wadia, dsc, etc.
We design those units because we can't find nothing that can satisfied the analog/digital music reproduction at home. I know every sigle advantage of the digital medium over the analog one and I know too every single advantage of the analog medium over the digital one.

I agree with Albert: you are totally wrong. I agree totally with Sirspeedy: the LP is nearest the " true ".

If I have to do a comparation I will write this: " the signal " flow " through the analog rig and only " pass " through the digital one.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.

Dear Gregm: *** " , I'm not sure that certain specs are misleading or that they should be waived altogether... " ***

I think you are right. There are some specs that are critical in the sound reproduction of any audio system, example: RIAA equalization deviation or amplifier output impedance.

*** " Specifications have almost no value in determining whether a product sounds good or not " ***

Albert you are right. The specs can't tell us how it will be the sound, but some specs like those on my examples are specs that any one that take care about music and about music reproduction have to take in count seriously before buying an amplifier or a phono preamp. Those specs can tell us which will be the " behavior " of the amp/phonopreamp that we choose.
The specs subject is a very complicated issue. The important point is to know which specs really count in the quality of the sound reproduction of an audio item, like in my spec examples.

BTW, the problem with Eldart is that he don't know about and Eldart this is one of the reasons why I know for sure that you are an inexperience audio people.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.

Hi Eldart: *** " I go back to about 1953 with my own systems, and used others before that. " ***

That's means nothing on the subject except that.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.