Thanks for all your replies. This is what I'm finding. the Audio Research has the best resale value of any of the used equipment. There are a couple of better deals out there, but I'm not sure of the sound. I don't need a phono stage and am finding that I would problably like a tube preamp. I'm looking for something really musical and the CJPV10BL sounds like a good choice. It's tubed, It's linestage and It's still reasonably priced, compared to what people are wanting for the ARC products. Another choice is Mcintosh. I was wondering about the McIntosh C712? It's not tube, but has lot's of features. I'm not sure of the sound, but I'm not sure of any of the mentioned preamps everyone recommended either. So I guess it comes down to taking a leap of faith and if not satisfied, sell it, like everyone else here on Audiogon... Sound like this has happened before a few time here. I'm looking also at ARC LS2 and Audible Illusions L1. I think the ARC is a better choice. Do you think any of these will sound better than my Adcom GTP-500II? But really thanks everyone and let's keep this going. I'd like to hear from all points of view.