What receiver should I buy?


I need some help my fellow audio fans. I need to replace my beloved Harmon Kardon AVR 7300. I just want something that has HDMI. I want to spend under $2000.00. It doesn't have to be new technology. I just want to be able to continue enjoying my 5.1 Klipsch set-up at high volumes. Does anyone have any suggestions? My 7300 is old tech but a high current monster. I need something close.   Speakerwise I run Klipsch, RF 82s, an RC64, RS52's and an RW12D.  I just use it for watching movies and the occasional rock concert video (AC/DC) and the like.  I'm not an audiophile.  My hearing sucks but I do need good clean power.  The Integra DTR 70.4 has the weight and the stats  but the reviews say it's under powered.  I'm willing to buy refurbished models and "new in the box" stuff that several years old.  What should I get and where can I get it.  
kevin774

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IMO, get the cheapest AVR you can that has a full set of pre-outs to drive a 5 channel power amp.  Then you'll never have to worry about power again.  Also when the AVR becomes obsolete or breaks in a few years, you won't be out a lot of money.  Just replace it with another cheap AVR as the mainstream manufacturers seem to change models every year.  There always closeouts or demos, especially in the Fall when the new models come out at discounts at 50% or more off MSRP.  

Meanwhile that 5 channel power amp will keep pumping out the watts and be ready for that next AVR.  And the next one.  And the next...Well you get the idea.  Good luck!

Sorry gents but I disagree.  A pre-pro is far more expensive than an AVR having the latest features and both will go obsolete in a few years anyway.  So why waste the money on a pre-pro when an AVR will offer the same performance from its processing section.  It's the power amp sections that are the most severely compromised on AVR's - not the codecs or DSP.   AVR's are nothing but features.  You can get the latest and greatest of these in an AVR that will sound just as good as pre-pro for less money too.

Put the money in a good power amp.  That will never go obsolete!

But to each his own I suppose.
The problem with cheap AVR’s is that after the processing, the first stage of amplification for the analog signal takes place in its preamp section,

If you look at my initial post, I said get the cheapest AVR that has a full set of pre-outs. This automatically implies that your looking at a mid to top of the line unit in just about everyone’s line up because the real cheap ones don’t have pre-outs.  This would still be cheaper than a pre-pro - unless there are now some good ones that have come down in price.  Back when I was really engaged in HT, a pre-pro was 2-4K and models did not change every year.  So I found it more effective to buy an upper level AVR as cheap as possible when they were closed out every Fall.   

I agree that a superior analog preamp section is where its at for proper musical reproduction. That’s why I am really a 2 channel guy having true stereo components in my system. After a ten year affair with the HT mistress always to be left unsatisfied with music, I went back to stereo and have never been happier. And that was using flagship AVR’s and even HT separates. And it was the pre-amp in every unit that I objected too in addition to the power amp sections in AVR’s. I couldn’t find one that sounded right in either an AVR or a pre-pro. Never found any fault in a good multi-channel power amp though and liked the fact that they never went obsolete.

Perhaps the OP should have posted his question in HT sub forum because when he said receiver in the title of his thread, he really meant AVR.