What preamp creates the largest soundstage?


I have always loved a large soundstage.  I have a small listening room (10x10) and have mini-monitors, driven by a tube amp.  I have played a lot with speaker placement, room acoustics, listening position to create a large soundstage.  I have rolled tubes on the amp and made dramatic improvements. (I have purposely left details on the brands of tubes, amp and speakers out, because I don’t want side comments to distract from my question)

i have a digital source into a solid state naim preamp.  I home demo’ed a well reviewed preamp, and was surprised at how much the soundstage shrunk, both side to side and top downward.  It was deeper, and did have much of the tube magic, but I could not live without the big soundstage.  

so my question is, does anyone have experience with a preamp that produces a big soundstage?  I am looking for recommendations on what to demo next. While I lean toward tubes, I am open to solid state.  I am okay either new or used, and could spend in the 5k range, but would be happy to spend less.  Also comments on specific brands (i.e. xyz is known to have great soundstage in all their preamps) as opposed to models, are welcome.

and I will be the first to admit that perhaps the very large soundstage is not “accurate”to real music, but boy is it seductive and I love it and can’t live without it.

meiatflask

Showing 3 responses by jtgofish

DHT preamps produce the most 3D /holographic soundstage.Probably because those same tubes do the same thing when used in power amps.Which is why so many people love SET amplifiers.Except you are better off getting those qualities in your preamp and using any type of power amp that lets those qualities through because SET amplifiers are incredibly speaker fussy.Plus a really good DHT preamp will cost you a lot less than a really good SET power amplifier.
If DHT preamps are not the best at creating 3D soundstage why would manufacturers use them? Perhaps they are just stupid? DHTs are a lot more difficult to use than dedicated preamp valves.It also seems odd that for those that have worked out how to make them they become their premium model .The Coincident mentioned above by Brownsfan is a DHT preamp [101D].
The biggest 3D soundstage comes from directly heated triode [DHT] preamps.Especially if you can use meshplate tubes .Coincident,Ming Da,Manley and Supratek make DHT preamps.I use a Supratek 300B preamp and it has a very big room filling soundstage.The Ming Da DHT preamps are surprisingly good.Not Supratek or Coincident standard but still very good.