What Matters and What is Nonsense


I’ve been an audiophile for approximately 50 years. In my college days, I used to hang around the factory of a very well regarded speaker manufacturer where I learned a lot from the owners. When I started with audio it was a technical hobby. You were expected to know something about electronics and acoustics. Listening was important, but understanding why something sounded good or not so good was just as important. No one in 1968 would have known what you were talking about if you said you had tweaked your system and it sounded so much better. But if you talked about constant power output with frequency, or pleasing second-order harmonic distortion versus jarring odd-order harmonics in amplification, you were part of the tribe.

Starting in the 1980s, a lot of pseudo scientific nonsense started appearing. Power cords were important. One meter interconnects made a big difference. Using a green magic marker on the edge of a CD was amazing. Putting isolation dampers under a CD transport lifted the veil on the music. Ugh. This stuff still make my eyes roll, even after all these years.

So I have decided to impart years and years of hard won knowledge to today’s hobbists who might be interested in reality. This is my list of the steps in the audio reproduction chain, and the relative importance of each step. My ranking of relative importance includes a big dose of cost/benefit ratio. At this point in the evolution of audio, I am assuming digital recording and reproduction.

Item / Importance to the sound on a scale of 1-10 / Cost benefit ratio

  • The room the recording was made in / 8 / Nothing you can do about it
  • The microphones and setup used in the recording / 8 / nothing you can do about it.
  • The equalization and mixing of the recording / 10 / Nothing you can do about it
  • The technology used for the recording (analog, digital, sample rate, etc.) / 5 / nothing you can do about it.
  • The format of the consumer recording (vinyl, CD, DSD, etc.) 44.1 - 16 really is good enough / 3 / moderate CB ratio
  • The playback device i.e. cartridge or DAC / 5 / can be a horribe CB ratio - do this almost last
  • The electronics - preamp and amp / 4 / the amount of money wasted on $5,000 preamps and amps is amazing.
  • Low leve interconnects / 2 / save your money, folks
  • Speaker cables / 3 / another place to save your money
  • Speakers / 10 / very very high cost to benefit ratio. Spend your money here.
  • Listening room / 9 / an excellent place to put your money. DSPs have revolutionized audio reproduction
In summary, buy the best speakers you can afford, and invest in something like Dirac Live or learn how to use REW and buy a MiniDSP HD to implement the filters. Almost everything else is a gross waste of money.
phomchick

Showing 13 responses by glupson

rbstehno,

Which tires did you have and, if you remember, what size were they? How was the noise?
geoffkait,

Do not worry yourself. The title of this thread was What matters and what is nonsense. It is good to remind ourselves from time to time of real perspective. Thank you for providing us with an opportunity.
geoffkait,

On a more useful note, do you have an opinion about oregano? Is it better to put it directly on the pizza dough, or it is better to put it on top of other ingredients?
geoffkait,

How totally bizarre! Why would anyone go through all that trouble and not hear the results? I’m afraid something’s terribly wrong somewhere. Could be what, operator error?
Yawn.
prof,

It seems that your turntable base has been a valuable tweak already. Maybe not for sound, but who really cares. It was fun for you and now you can watch it every day and enjoy knowing you did it. That may be much more worth than getting an extra Hertz somewhere in the spectrum.
Michael Green,

"What is nonsense to one hobbyist will be the listening savoir to the next."
Who could disagree with this one? It is important to remember it from time to time. Of course, vice versa also applies. What is the listening savior to one hobbyist will be non-sense to the next. I will leave it to the arguers on-call to mention some examples here.

"Putting your faith in a component is a tweak."
Huh, you could have left this one out. It becomes way too broad of a description to even consider it debatable or, to those who do not find it as their savoir, acceptable. Maybe added one of the major tweaks of the sound to the list instead, listening volume?

"...tell the story of how big of a hobby this is..."
It is an interesting observation in complete opposition from mine. I am sure we all have different friends. I am talking only about real living people we know and may meet, not virtual Facebook and Internet personae. I know only one (repeat, one) person who has had any inclination to buy anything more than a Bluetooth speaker or some Bose Wave Radio variant. Everybody else seems to be content with the sound coming from their iPhone speakers. I am sure that audio hobby is not missing diversity, but I think that it is far from being a big one. Unless that "big" referred to those few interested in it thinking very passionately about it. However, those are probably questions for some other thread with similar chewed-to-exhaustion topic.
duckworp,

Regarding this 50% of the budget going into speakers vs. source. I wonder how that difference in views you and I heard came to be. I do not remember where I actually learned about it, but I was almost exclusively exposed to German audio magazines (Audio, Stereoplay) so that would be my best bet. I had virtually no exposure to British magazines. It was before Internet so things were really word of mouth and maybe it got mistranslated along the way or someone liked the idea of 50% but did not agree with the budget allocation. Who would know. It reminds me that it was, at that time wherever I used to read about audio equipment, often mentioned that British approach to anything was "garbage in-garbage out" so they apparently thought that source was the most important part. That would align with 50% of the budget you heard about.
dumacker,

"...That standard expired a week ago."
I have to remember this sentence. Not only for audio equipment, but in general. Short and bright.

"If you have money to burn then give it to someone that needs it."
I am sure that more or less every manufacturer of anything would apply for that donation. They/we all need it.
duckworp,

Never having set a foot in a studio, save for Compass Point with no music playing, it was interesting to read your short observations of them. I wish you elaborated more on that, but it is probably a topic for some other thread.

Despite agreeing with you 100% on...

The difference is, I would never say that you or anyone, should follow my spending allocation, nor that of the studios, nor that of the OP.
I think you are a bit harsh on OP. I had a feeling he simply made his thoughts public, rather than preaching that is the only way it should be done. More like an advice to a friend who is asking for help navigating. Maybe I misunderstood it.

When I was growing up, I heard that half of your budget should go to speakers and the rest would be divided between whatever sources you chose. It was to be some golden rule. Has anyone else heard of that logic? It just stuck with me and I, not intentionally, happen to have achieved almost perfect equilibrium these days.
If anybody is keeping a tally, one more vote for mostly agreeing with the original post. I would add a few points to amplifier, though.

As far as cables go, I feel it is worth investing in them a little bit for cosmetic/visual effect. I have not yet, but would.