What kind of power wakes up electrostatic speakers


Is it wpc, high current, both or what? I've been aud-itioning amps with the Final Electrostatic 0.3's (86 db sensitivity). The manufacturer suggests a minimum of 50 wpc to get them going. So far, I've tried a Nakamichi Stasis (150wpc) and an Electrocompaniet AW250DMB(250 wpc).With both,the speakers sounded dull, yet the Parasound HCA 3500 (250wpc & high current)made them sing sweet as can be.
Could somebody be kind enought to explain to me how this stuff works. I need to purchase an amp to drive the Final 0.4's (the big brother to the 0.3's). I'd love to know what
to look for.
I appreciate in advance your help. The source for this
was a Pioneer PD S95.
steakster
The Acoustat TNT-200 has been upgraded and is now the Hafler 9505 DIABLO. It was designed by Jim Strickland who designed all of the Acoustat products made in USA. I have been using a 9505 to drive my Acoustat 2+2s for several years and have no complaints. Don
it's the volts!(watts = amps x volts) Look at the power supply rating on the amps you auditioned and that should give you your answer. -aj
May I join this discussion, since I am a proud owner of Martin Logan Prodigy ESL.
I have recently upgraded my amps and use now two Wolcott tube monoblocks for the panels and have adapted two bridged Bel Canto Evo 200.2 as monoblocks for the bass woofers. Now I have the best of both worlds: Giagantic mid range and treble, plus a bass which finally has body, but is not boomy.
If you cannot afford the Wolcott amps, I would definitely look into the new Bel Canto Evo 200.2.
I had the older version (which serves now for the bass) driving the whole Prodigy speaker and I was very amazed from the sound I got. And you can get a pair of the older Evo 200.2 for less than $3000 per pair here at Audiogon.
They have plenty of power (up to 800 watts, short term) in bridged mode to drive your speakers. I would not suggest just one Bel Canto stereo amp. They really only shine in bridged monoblock mode.
It's really not watts or amps but volts. ESLs are mostly voltage driven devices. However, there is a reactive impedance due to the fact that they are really just capacitors (impedance drops with increasing frequency) that are driven by transformers (voltage step up devices).

Since there is a characteristsic impedance, but one that is reactive - it turns out that in solid state amps it is a good idea to have a large SOA (safe operating area) and a stable design so that the amp doesn't barf on the wierd phase angles and implied current/voltage lead/lag.

In order to move the diaphragm almost only voltage is required - however in practice there is some current wasted in the process. This is why tube amps can be direct coupled to the stators in some designs, even though the plates are actually very high impedance. Current not really required.

For various reasons, imho, there are few solid state amps that shine on ESL loads, while tubes of sufficient power (read power = voltage swing) can often give superior results in the midbass...

There are only a few different variants on the drive transformer circuits used in ESLs. Notoriously bad are the original ML CLS with a nasty dip down into the 2 ohm region, making them a tough to drive speaker in general. Depending upon what the manufacturer of your speaker did in the drive circuit (and there are only a few choices for full range cells - full range cells being like CLS, Acoustat, not Quad 57)you could have a nasty, low Z load to drive. That makes it very hard for all but the very biggest amps to handle, and that narrows the field so much that you may have a hard time finding one that also sounds good.

If you want to do some research look into the patented drive circuit for the Acoustats - it solved this problem very nicely. One can use it for personal use without violating the patents, btw...

For some ESLs it can be a problem to find an amp that will drive the speaker and sound good doing it for the above reasons.