Well, I guess my best solution is to buy Forte iv pair, move them around until I get the bass I’m looking for, and get rid of my SVS sub. Rated at 38 on the low end, and from what I understand, these Klipsch speakers are darker than previous Fortes, and move the listener physically if you NEED it… but most enjoyable for most of us, is the detail we get at night, at volume where we actually LISTEN, “tightly”.