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What is the best used ARC Pre-Amp to get?

With all the choices in ARC Pre-Amps I need to know which have these capabilities,are rated the Best and what the Blue Book is for them used?If you know of a different Brand that has the same capabilities then pass it along.

Phono Stage
Single Ended
Processor Loop-(If possible)
Remote Control-(If Possible)
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Looking at what to get in an ARC Pre-Amp.I would like to becapable of having my Lexicon CP-3+ SS Processor outside the Loop when using the system for Stereo only playback!Need a Phono Stage also.How would you go about it?

The newer ARC Pre's have a Processor Loop along with Remote's.Would like to either get an all tubes Pre-Amp or Hybrid with a remote capability.

Line-Levels are out because I do not want to go through getting a outboard Phono stage.

This newer model looks like it has the features I need ,but I would like to get a used model.
http://www.audioresearch.com/SP16.html

Thanx!
nearsota
nearsota OP
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The best setup I have ever heard used with my particular speaker's was a Audio Research Pre-Amp used with a ML Amp.I really do not care what other's might think of ARC's.There are probably better Pre-Amps ,but for the $$ I have to wonder.

I forgot about using the Tape Loop for the SS Processor,but I want to make certain I can Seperate my 2 channel playback from my HT setup!A remote is definately a plus for versitility .Guess it's the couch potatoe in me!

Still do not understand the Processor Loop that is in the new ARC Line.

Was considering the SP9 MKII a few months back and will lean that way most likely!

Thanx for the feedback!
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broadwaychris
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The SP8 is the very best for your dollar, hands down.
I've had the SP9MKIII and it's a sterile and overrated pre.
The SP8, like the all time champ, SP10, are the last all tube series from AR.
nearsota OP
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Was just looking at the SP8 and I will be looking out for one that won't drain my pocket!Is there any Tube tips I need for it?And what do I do ,buy an outboard Phono Stage?I could just use the Phonostage from a Rotel Pre-Amp I have to hook into the Linestage correct?
newbee
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the sp8 has a built in phono. re the sp10II besides the price there is a sonic difference to consider. the sp8 has a more up-front sound - the sp10II is more laid back. if you can find one and spring for the extra bucks the sp10II is worth the difference. i've had mine for 16 years now - i won't be selling it soon i can promise. i also use a creek for casual volume control. works just fine.
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