What is proper ratio of money spent on amp/preamp/integrated vs speakers? 1:1?


Lately I'm finding more of a difference in SQ as a move up the chain in the amp/preamp/integrated market and not so much if I try to upgrade speakers.  Plus, buying and selling (and shipping) speakers is a PITA.  But having just upgraded from Devialet D200 to the dual mono D400 and loving it, it feels odd having $8000 (I'm in the used market almost exclusively) worth of power running $4000 worth of speakers, Dynaudio Contour 30's. 

I'm now wanting to upgrade again to the Expert Pro 440, but then we're taking about $10,000 and even more of a skewed ratio.
What is the proper ratio?  Thoughts?
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Showing 7 responses by michaelgreenaudio

I've never felt that $$$=sound. It's a very strange concept to me in regards to parts of the audio chain.

Michael Green

Hi Audiotroy

I've looked on your website but haven't found your dedicated listening rooms yet. Can you send me the link to them please. What I've seen so far must be the display rooms not the auditioning rooms. thanks

Michael

In todays world why own speakers that are hard to drive? Hard to drive means more money all the way around and it's no longer necessary to achieve the highest levels of performance.

Marketing "money audio" with today's innovations available is a bit of a scam. I do cut some slack for panel designs but box speakers over $15,000.00 that's over board. Amps over $10,000.00 pretty nuts.

I'm so happy the table has turned and there are $200.00 amplifiers beating the heck out of the expensive amps when used on easy to drive speakers. I'm not talking about high efficiency speakers either, I'm talking about easy to drive.

Listeners are discovering this hobby anew and there's no way around it, why should there be. Simple variable systems designed to play the audio signal instead of trophy systems never really ever being able to be setup properly. And when done so, only being able to play a small portion of the musical collection most of us enjoy.

People pushing the big bucks, keep in mind the kid down the street who has built a righteous listening room voiced to the max, using a simple setup and able to play any recording they wish to the fullest cause they have the ability to tune it in.

Michael Green

Hi Audiotroy

Thanks for the invite. As soon as I can make arrangements I'll bring in a few of the products you carry (have already done this with one) and give my review of them vs the products I have recently been using and publish the results.

MG

Hi Audiotroy

So the 4 rooms is what you have? You don't have any dedicated listening rooms?

thanks

MG

Hi Audiotroy

Actually no, none of these rooms would meet our criteria for evaluating audio components.

Michael Green

Actually Audiotroy my products were there. They weren’t there because I was marketing them either. They were there because the designers have had them for years and have been using them in their show systems all along.

Isn’t that pretty cool to see 25 year old product being used in these systems. It’s also been pretty cool to see the private audio club events asking for our toys after all these years. One of them is happening this weekend in Malaysia. Love doing the private gigs!

http://tuneland.forumotion.com/t506-hifi-gathering-in-sabah

Audiotroy says "We don’t have the luxury of having a room with just one pair of speakers."

Tell that to your clients not me. I don’t know you from Jack. I just see what I read here.

MG