I really wonder.... If those who claimed to have bad experiences with the Pangea cables have a vested interest elsewhere. I never heard any of the negatives that some here are claiming. If they were genuinely bad experiences? Its still no reason not to try them. It may be a fluke thing. They are well made and sell for a much better price than those ones others approve of. They are constructed with Cardas cable and litz. I think I may smell a rat... But, one never knows.