What HiFi and Atmos

@kraftwerkturbo 

The B&W M1’s will make great height speakers for Atmos, let me know what you think:

https://www.bowerswilkins.com/en-us/product/home-theater/m-1

or HTM 2 $500:

@erik_squires

Thank you for starting this thread! I have an MQA streamer with a Bluesound Node and a Dolby Atmos streamer with an X-Box Series S. Atmos is very, very enjoyable on my rig which has been meticulously setup to support immersive audio. You just can’t compare object based and channel based. My advice is to not make this about either/or. Take advantage of both. The other thing is how much more can they do with two channel in terms of the files? The best two channel is analog vinyl and it probably peaked more than twenty years ago. Atmos is very early and is getting better every month IMO. The classic albums remastered in Atmos are nice. The NEW music being mastered in Atmos is more interesting.
Myth- You need more than two speakers for Atmos. No, it plays back fine with two speakers or headphones.

Myth- You can slap any speaker on the ceiling to do atmos. No, Atmos has very clear specs by dolby and is easy to follow because the specs are the same for the studios as they are the consumer.

So, I think this is a healthy debate and I am not advocating one is better universally. I am advocating to have both.
I don’t want to hijack your thread but the stuff to check out is NOT from the labels, NOT from Dolby but from the engineers who have been mixing in two channel. Just listen to what they have to share about mixing in atmos, and keep in mind, this is still like less than 5 years since Apple launched spatial audio, very early days.

@erik_squires 

FWIW your room would sound incredible once you hear a good atmos mix in it. It pressurizes a room much different than stereo.

@erik_squires 

What do you think of these:

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ImmersiveSysF--focal-7.14-immersive-audio-studio-monitor-system

I’m not against listeners enjoying 50 channel music

This is NOT Atmos, MQA or a valid setup of any type.

I just don’t see the need en masse.

OK, that is a preference. Is it all about you? No.

I think what we really need are drone Atmos speakers

Now you are just trolling, I won’t go there. If you take your current investment in your system ($150K?) and divide by 10 you will have enough for a VERY proper Atmos setup (actually you could do it for less than $10K).

This <$15K build will play all files including immersive, video, audio, MQA , vinyl and stereo. Spend the remaining $135K on whatever.

Dolby Atmos for music listening leaves me scratching my head. 

The resources I used when checking out Atmos music were the engineers, you can find many resources on youtube from engineers and srtists.

Married to one of these:

You didn’t answer my question, what do you think of those speakers??

Class G amplification for the woofer and mid drivers, class A/B for the tweeter?

Look at the reviews on the 8 inch monitors you use for L-C-R channels:

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Trio6BeR--focal-trio6-be-8-inch-powered-studio-monitor/reviews

@erik_squires 

This is a good way to get started, you already have a good room and bed channels. You need to upgrade your receiver (and can stick with Anthem for that) and add 4 of these Focal Domes (passive):

So you basically have no opinion of the actual speaker? I thought you were an expert on speakers, but I guess not, OK, NP.

Totally apples and oranges, 

MQA and DSD

or

Atmos and DTS-X

would a better comparison

I would like music mixes for 5 or 7 channels arrayed across the front, 

You can use DTS-Neural X upmixer, with a L-C-R speakers and two wide channels

Post if you need help with setup

create an answer for a problem that doesn’t exist.

It doesn’t exist for you because you took 30 years and $$$ to build a SOA system, simple. You are extremely happy, NP. The problem for me was I didn’t want to spend that much for 2 channel music only. I wanted one system for everything.

Now the problem for the industry, how do you get gen x and z to upgrade from their ear buds? I use an x-box as my atmos source and guess who else does:

Following the onset of Covid-19, activity on digital campfire platforms exploded, especially among Gen Z audiences, roughly defined as those born after 1997 or between the ages of nine and 24 today. In fact, the biggest cultural moments to capture the attention of young audiences in 2020 happened on digital campfire platforms, not traditional social ones:

• A series of five concerts by hip-hop artist Travis Scott inside the game Fortnite in April was attended by more than 27 million players.
• A two-day November performance from rapper Lil Nas X on the gaming platform Roblox garnered more than 33 million views.
•  

It’s no accident that many digital campfires are either games or platforms that began as gathering places for gamers. Gaming has spilled over into the broader culture in recent years. Today, “gaming” is not just for “gamers” — it represents a new paradigm for interacting online.

@kraftwerkturbo

Onkyo TX-RZ810 is equipped for Atmos. You can use your Oppo 103 to bitstream Atmos out via HDMI as long as the disc is NOT 4K. Netflix streaming should be fine. What speakers are you using in your current rig? BTW, kraftwerk the band has an outstanding atmos blueray available. I have an Onkyo receiver in the mancave in an atmos setup, they make GREAT receivers:

This blueray has an atmos and a dts mix and a 3D and a HD disc. It is the best concert bluray and GREAT technically and artisitically:

https://www.amazon.com/3-D-Catalogue-4Blu-ray-Discs-Cover/dp/B06Y3VL6ZQ/ref=sr_1_1?crid=21TWF6J2IXLNH&amp;keywords=kraftwerk+3d+blu+ray&amp;qid=1676639399&amp;sprefix=kraftwerk+3d+blueray%2Caps%2C162&amp;sr=8-1

For a CC how about a HTM-4