WHat did Audiophiles hear during Tape deck era?


How did Audiophile listened to audiophile quality during tape cassett era?
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Showing 22 responses by uberwaltz

Very nice Limo!
I did have three Nak decks but just down to one fully restored by Willy Herman ZX-7 for now.
And about 600 pre recorded tapes and 100 self recorded tapes atm but always looking for more good tapes......
Careful GK.
You will be spending your second stimulus check before you have even got it!
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Those Sony WM players are crazy prices right now.
$250 up for the D3 and $600 to $1500 for the D6?
EEK!
At a reminder from a fellow member I dragged out an old tape of Marc Cohn that I must have recorded mid 90,s.
It is on TDK SA tape.
Even after all this time it still sounds spectacular, hard to imagine the record would sound much better in my system.

Exactly my point cd318.
I never had a cheap tape deck that would chew up tapes in any of my cars. If it did it would be yanked out and tossed out the window!
Maybe I was a spoiled brat but when I went to all the trouble to make a great sounding recording then I darn well wanted to hear a great sounding playback of said recording even in the car.
Yes I had amps and subs in a lot of my cars too.......
Not quite sure how a crappy car tape deck can be the reason that cassette tapes per se were crappy.... lol
Some logic to it to someone Iโ€™m sure.........
ย hate to judge before all the facts are in but I might be the only one here who thinks that cassettes are great and often sound better than CDs or vinyl in most respects that matter.
Now you know I am VERY pro cassette tape GK with large money invested in a fully restored Nak zx7.
But even I might hesitate to go as far as that statement when you included records as well.
I did not have too much trouble replacing belts tbh.
I did always wonder what to do with the tub of leftover screws,nuts and bolts though..........
It saddens me so many make blanket statements about a format based on limited experience.
This..........
Just to put it in words that hopefully can explain my perspective a little.
I have to ask a couple of questions.
Do you own a top flight cassette deck in full working condition to factory specs?
Do you own a number of Chrome or Metal tapes that have been recorded on said cassette deck?

If you cannot answer yes to both then you just cannot understand or comprehend my viewpoint as you cannot hear what I hear.

And that is not meant as any insult or disrespect to anybody else here but I am not working of a possibly flawed 40 plus year old memory with my cassette tape experiences that I am posting.
If you frequent the Nakamichi forums or even talk to Willy Herman direct you will find that while the Dragon was a superb piece of high tech gear it did have reliability issues and was not truly the best choice for an everyday driver so to speak.
That honour lay at the door of the zx7/9 machines.
I will NEVER part with my zx7 ever!
Mapman
Thats too funny as I had a similar experience in about 1977 once I had motorized wheels I discovered a hifi ย chain called Laskys in the big city of Nottingham.
That place blew my young mind and although I know most of it just low to mid fi Japanese stuff I spent so many hours there.
Eventually saved enough to buy a Trio turntable, Aiwa ย Cassette deck, Trio integrated amp And Mission speakers.
For a 17 year old back in those days it was quite a good setup.
Basically it started life as a rival to the dictaphone system that is true.
i remember having this crabby little portable cassette recorder in oh 1974 or so.
I am sure it sounded awful and made terrible tapes but as a new teen just discovering rock music I was in heaven with it.
Itโ€™s really heartening to see we have SO many cassette tape experts in the house.
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Mapman
I would have to say that not ALL tapes from the late 80,s and early 90,s were better so it is not a general statement of fact imho.
However there certainly are a lot of good examples and obviously the newer the tape then the newer the tech internals and less aged shelf life.
So it is hard to just say 90,s tapes are better than 70,s tapes due to the 15 to 20 year age difference for starters alone.

This format will always have its haters and thats fine, leaves more tapes for me!
But to all those who just bleat repeatedly cassettes are crap.
You need a modern day listening education.
True there were/ are some pretty poor pre recorded tapes and at the age of a lot of them big issues with frozen mechanisms etc.
However there were also a high number of glorious issues on chrome tape etc that with the right electronics could bring immense listening pleasure.
Nuff said, everyone entitled to their own opinion.
Tuberist.
It's all good as I was not knocking your choice and I know you are in the land of digital now and enjoying every minute.
It was more just an observation and likely would have worked as well without your name in headlights.... Lol.
Peace!
Tuberist.
One could use the same analogy to records.
They need cleaning, stylus and cartridges wear out as do The records themselves.
Does that mean I should stop playing records too then?
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"tape cassette era?"

When did this happen? I purchased records, make a cassette copy for the car, because I thought they performed better than the pre recorded version.

No one informed me of an "era" during this time.
According to Sirius XM and their "classic rewind" channel, the cassette era was the 80,s.
Cannot say as I would disagree

Always have played cassette tapes alongside my records.
Some pretty well pre recorded tapes around but the hot ticket is a top flight Nak deck fully restored by Willy Herman ( not as expensive as you might think but 12 month wait list!).
Use Fuji metal tapes and you have yourself a superb recording if the rest of your system is up to snuff.

I would tend to agree that just looking at paper specs and what we "think we know" ,that a tiny tape width running so slow that a snail can outpace it should not work to any acceptable degree.
Just goes to show that "what we know" means diddly squat at times!ย