thanks nonoise, unfortunately the kitchen runs along a long wall, the l/r & d/r run along the other long wall so the speakers have to be along the 33' wall facing the other 33' wall which is 25' away. I suppose I could put the speakers on a 25' wall but the dining room table & chairs would be in between them and the listening area (couch). Does this effect the sound much, the table & chairs in the way?