What Are Your Reference Discs? or Specific Reference Tracks


Looking for new gems!  My reference discs are: Graceland, Paul Simon  Avalon, Roxy Music  Brothers in Arms, Dire Straits  So, Peter Gabriel  Ten Summoner's Tales, Sting 

What are yours?

wweiss

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A rare response to a guy who deserves none- you are wrong. As usual. You took that quote out of context. Either deliberately, because you are one of the ones who think its a good idea to threaten and harass (mailing to my home address, filing false charges against my x-ray license) or simply because reading comprehension never has been your strong suit. Either way, don’t care, except to set the record straight. You are dead wrong.

The quote is actually making my point, perfectly consistently. The context is explaining how my system, by pursuing exactly what I said- doing nothing but providing a crystal clear window into the recording- has allowed all these different recordings to shine. That’s why it mentions Ronstadt, etc. You latched onto one word- standard- which you try to make it seem like it means reference, when really all it means is common. I play it a lot. Go find the whole thing, post it, and apologize. Or not. I don’t care. There’s a reason I never respond to you, and it still stands. Bye now!


Frequently playing a personally popular song to evaluate a system is a definition of a reference recording.

Out of context? The pertinent section was quoted verbatim, including a sentence mentioning other recordings. Below is the entire post. Do the paragraphs before and after add context that changes the meaning of the word "standard" as it relates to "Year of the Cat"? Readers can decide for themselves.


They are. Pretty well burned in. That was the last two nights, the last several posts even. Sound stage is more influenced by fine toe adjustments. I like them toed in a bit more than most. Not a lot, but some. Dynamics are and have been awesome from thevery beginning. Ditto the smooth even flat response.

Just got off the phone congratulating Eric on being such a genius designer. Most coherent speaker yet. Close your eyes, its not even like a speaker at all. Certainly not like a towering great big one! They do large scale bigger and more believably than thesomewhat smaller Khorus, but also do small scale more believably intimate as well.

Last night my standard Year of the Cat the sax sounded more like sax than ever, thepiano had more of the complex resonance of a real piano. Each note on a piano is three strings, and they are tuned individually. Its one of those things tells you its a real piano not a recording, and its way more real now than ever. The electric guitar solo at the end really shines. Probably most impressive is the degree to which all these things are rendered so clear and distinct from each other. There’s recordings like Ronstadt with Riddle, Sinatra with Ellington, Satchmo King Oliver, where the vocals seemed fine but a lot of the accompaniment was sort of buried down in there somewhere. Not any more!

I’m inside there now, applying fO.q tape, eCards and Mats, just taking a break. Mods are hard work. Okay back to it.

As far as connecting me to threats and harassment, (I do know what you’re referring to because I saw your thread, and the photos posted on your second system page before they were both deleted), it’s frankly abhorrent that someone would send a letter like that. My user name was not on the list of supporting members. Your accusation against me is false. You owe me an apology.

As you often say, an insult is not an argument, and your post is a particularly glaring example.
It seems to me that MC is the only one who answered the question accurately. Not because He agrees with me nor because I agree with him but because he spoke the truth.

Except his first post was derisive of those who use reference tracks, and is contradictory to what he has written in the past when evaluating his system.

I posted a verbatim quote and thread link for reference.

So, perhaps it’s his perspective at the present time, but it’s inconsistent with his comment history.

I’m right there with millercarbon.


Then consider "Year of the Cat"...

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/tekton-design-moab-2/post?highlight=Year%2Bof%2Bthe%2Bcat&postid=1996673#1996673

millercarbon 08-06-2020 4:50pm:


Last night my standard Year of the Cat the sax sounded more like sax than ever, the piano had more of the complex resonance of a real piano. Each note on a piano is three strings, and they are tuned individually. Its one of those things tells you its a real piano not a recording, and its way more real now than ever. The electric guitar solo at the end really shines. Probably most impressive is the degree to which all these things are rendered so clear and distinct from each other. There’s recordings like Ronstadt with Riddle, Sinatra with Ellington, Satchmo King Oliver, where the vocals seemed fine but a lot of the accompaniment was sort of buried down in there somewhere. Not any more!

As far as evaluating components, or loudspeaker or tweaks…or just enjoying his system …Chuck has referenced “Year of the Cat” several times over the years.


https://forum.audiogon.com/search/index?utf8=✓&query=Year+of+the+cat&username=Millercarbon