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Well Tempered or Teres .....

After much deliberation, I have narrowed my choices down to either the Well Tempered Classic (used, round motor) or the Teres.

My preferences for my new table are a black background as silent as possible, and dynamics along with musicality.

My thoughts on arms for the Teres --- well Just like eating an elephant, one bite at a time, but maybe ET2 or Clearaudio Unify, but I will probably start with a modded Rega 250 in order to put some monies into the 300B amp fund.

I listen to a variety of music: Blues, Classic Rock, Alternative, Female vocals, piano. (not in any particular order.)

As Far as the Teres models, I am leaning toward the Teres with the cocobolo base, because I know that if I went with the acrylic base I would always kick myself for not waiting for the Cocobolo model.

So.....

Input is appreciated as to thoughts between the WT & the Teres cocobolo base table,and of course the facts and reasons behind those thoughts.

Just for kicks, how about the same question regarding the acrylic base Teres and the WT.

Thanks for the input.

focusedfx

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jphii
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I have only auditioned one WT table. I never heard a Teres before I built mine. Enough said. Well, maybe not. I, like you, asked advice about this before proceeding. I originally wanted to do it all for 2k. Yeah, right! It has now progressed to all out vinyl madness. The Teres design just seems "right". As I'm sure you are aware of through this forum and VA, there has been basically no one who is dissaisfied with the Teres (one exception, CB took care of it). That's because you flat out cannot beat it for the money.

I can tell you that the sonic difference between MY Staron plinth and MY cocobolo plinth is minimal, almost nothinig. But, there is a difference. But remember, I built these, they are not "stock" Teres items, just loosly based on CB's design. I like the wood. I can change the sonics by changing the arm boards more than changing plinths.

Use the RB250 in one of it's many variations. I use an OL1, a modded 250, & a modded 300. The OL1 is the best of this particular group. It will allow you to put a significant amout of money away for the 300b's.

What's your budget? Cartridge preference? It may help with the recommendations.
jphii
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I use a 103r and really like it with the K&K step up. Since any Shelter requires a step up too, you can save about $550 by using the 103r, more with a 103.

I'd go with a cocobolo 245, RB250, K&K, and Denon to start. You will be amazed! Remember, I have the non lead loaded platter. That saves about $1225 over a 265. In my case, I wanted to do my own platters to see what I can come up with.

You are looking at about $2800 for a 245, $250 for the K$K, $241 for the 103r, and probably $300 for an arm. So, for about $3600 you are looking at a setup that IMHO NO Well Tempered will touch. At least the one I listened to isn't even close.

Using my Audio Note Soro SE Phono is almost dead quiet. I'm having a bit of frustration with my ic's between the K&K and the Soro, but when I get that figured out it should be absolutely black. I retubed everything in the amp, and that took the phono stage to NO NOISE when the ic's aren't connected.

What's the rest of your system?

I also took some more pics of the new armboard that will be going up today.
jphii
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Six weeks is a long wait, but well worth it. You will never "kick yourself inn the ass" for buying it.

The rewire is not hard at all. You should have no problem. The hardest part of the TWL mod is popping off the caps! I did it for a minute, to see how it sounds, then took it off. Only because of the amount of swapping things around at this stage. When I have it set up for me & only me, it goes back. It's amazing.

Doug's VTF thread

Pretty neat, huh? It's fun to see what people will come up with to make our vinyl lives easier & better.

Feel free to email if I can help in any way.

Joe
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