Well Tempered or Teres .....


After much deliberation, I have narrowed my choices down to either the Well Tempered Classic (used, round motor) or the Teres.

My preferences for my new table are a black background as silent as possible, and dynamics along with musicality.

My thoughts on arms for the Teres --- well Just like eating an elephant, one bite at a time, but maybe ET2 or Clearaudio Unify, but I will probably start with a modded Rega 250 in order to put some monies into the 300B amp fund.

I listen to a variety of music: Blues, Classic Rock, Alternative, Female vocals, piano. (not in any particular order.)

As Far as the Teres models, I am leaning toward the Teres with the cocobolo base, because I know that if I went with the acrylic base I would always kick myself for not waiting for the Cocobolo model.

So.....

Input is appreciated as to thoughts between the WT & the Teres cocobolo base table,and of course the facts and reasons behind those thoughts.

Just for kicks, how about the same question regarding the acrylic base Teres and the WT.

Thanks for the input.

focusedfx

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Doug,

Appreciate the story, sure sounds like you did well on the Shelter purchase :)

I see that you have done the "TWL's HiFi Mod" on your Origin Live Silver Mk I, that mod has always interested me and with my present setup I am unable to implement it.

I am thinking maybe starting out with a stock RB250, (Juki's got the RB250 for ~ $200) then doing a one shot rewire from cart clips to RCA's, stub and counterweight replacement, and of course the TWL mod.

Any thoughts on the difficulty factor of doing the rewire ? (I like to "get my hands dirty", am detail oriented, with mechanical/electrical ability.)

Of course, this RB250 arm thing may be just a passing thought--

Decisions Decisions...

Now what I REALLY need to do is get my pen a little closer to my checkbook and make out a check to Teres! (I am giving myself a 2 month deadline to do so.)
Thanks for the heads up on the Teres wait, (I saw 6 weeks on his website) I guess I will have to live with that--

I would most certainly purchase the TWL Mod from TWL, as I feel its the least I can do in order to help support the inventor and credit is due, where its due :) I highly enjoy TWL's informative plus posts.

Is there a thread that covers your VTF mod? (adjusting the VTF in those increments without moving the CW sounds really slick!)

Now if I could get my nose outta the forums, and get some work done...

R~
Jphii,

Thank you for your input, I have followed the documentation of your build process and want to take a moment to say thank you for providing what must have been a very exciting process-- not to mention the end result!

You ask about budget, For the table itself, if it takes a little longer for me to put together what is required for the Teres Cocobolo table so be it.

As far as budget for cartridges- I am presently using a Dynavector 10x4, (I like the way it handles surface noise, or the relative lack thereof), but the Shelter 501 or 901 are really on my mind.

More than likely I will visit the Denon DL103 in one of its various flavours until I get the 300b dream dialed in.

Once again, I really prefer a black background, dynamics etc (Alnico Klipschorns are one of my more listened to pairs of speakers right now)

Of course when the audio upgrade bug bites, it does so without hesitation, or regard for much other than self gratification :) so....

Happy listening
Hi Jphii,

Your recommendations are certainly in line with my thinking, the cocobolo 245 and the RB250 is what I am leaning toward as my initial new table and arm. Since I find my system a work in progress the arm, and cart choice will be always subject to a change in time. (the Denon sounds lke a great idea too!

My system consists of:

Dynavector 10x4
Teksonor turntable (Italian table with a plinth made of a solid block of olive wood.)
Marantz 150 tuner
Nakamichi RX202
Threshold SL10 Pre (I like this pre, build quality second to none, and extremely quiet with a great phono stage.)
Bottlehead Paramours, upgraded
Klipsch Heresy
Klipschorns
Ess AMT1
Stax Earspeakers

And also a mint GAS Son of Ampzilla that I sometimes listen to.

At this point,my Khorns are the only thing that is destined to stay for a long, long time.

look forward to your addititions to your Teres Site!

Happy Listening,

Richard
Thanks Doug,

Interesting point with regard to the Gimball based design arms and dynamics, now that I think about it, it does make a lot of sense.

In my heart of hearts I really do feel that the Teres Cocobolo is becoming more of a reality day by day. (Now I just need to take the plunge.)

Richard
Thanks Joe,

It just keeps gettin better and better--

I love this forum but it sure isn't gonna help my bank account any.

Ever see a hearse with a trailer hitch ? how about a luggage rack ?

Ya can't take it with ya!

Happy Listening,

Richard
Doug,

Donkey cart, then so be it! I will have a Cocobolo based Teres....

tick tick tick, the countdown is on-- just need a lil mo' time :) (1.5 months and counting)

I'm gonna be joinin' the fold---

R~