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Well Tempered Amadeus vs TW Acustic Raven One

I've got a Well Tempered Amadeus GTA with DPS now (had the standard Amadeus in the past) and am wondering if anyone has compared it so the TW Acustic Raven One with a nice arm like the Tri-Planar or Graham Supreme? I know they are not even remotely close when it comes to price, but that's kind of the point of my question. Assuming the Raven would be better, how much better is it than the $4200 GTA? In what ways are they different sound wise? I love the GTA sound but am at the point of wondering how much more there is.
vortrex
no_regrets
526 posts
 
I too would be interested in that comparison. I'm sorry that i can't help with that.

I am curious though how the stock GTA compares to it with the DPS?
lotus340r
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I have heard both in different systems (andf used to own a GTA and now own a RavenAC3). Both great tables but personally I wouldnt bother fiddling about between the two. The amadeus is a lovely deck with a very fluid, relaxed sound so unless you are looking for a different presentation then stick with it.

Or go to the next level in turntables (e.g. The new AMG) or spend money on a really good phono preamp.

The phono should cost as much as the whole tt/arm/cart imo, it makes a HUGE difference. Diminishing returns is not strictly true either. Just last week i comprehensively tested a £2000 phono with a £9000 one and the difference was enormous, arguably a bigger difference between two turntables at similar prices.
vortrex OP
273 posts
 
That's interesting. I just moved from a GTA to a Rock 7 with Helius arm and the difference was pretty profound. I don't disagree that the phono stage matters, but in my experiences I put the order of importance at table/arm - phono pre - cart - cable. I now wonder if the Raven with a good arm will be a similar jump in performance from the Rock 7?
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rauliruegas
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Dear Vortrex: ++++ " but in my experiences I put the order of importance at table/arm - phono pre - cart - cable. " ++++

I respect your opinion but I have a little different one:

well the cartridge is the source and the ones that is asking for what surrounded it can fulfil its needs. A cartridge needs to be ( a must to ) in " perfect " match with its couple: the tonearm ( its couple is not the TT. ), as better matched as better quality performance level you will hear from that cartridge.

Now, my second item on importance is where the cartridge signal is proccessed that's where that signal could be degraded in high way adding and loosing precious recorded information through that signal proccess. This cartridge signal proccess happen in the Phonolinepreamp and what you add there you can't disappeared latter and what you lose there you can't recovery again, the cartridge signal pass through a tortuous and heavy proccess to say the least. So IMHO as better accurate/neutral/low distortions/low noise is your phonolinepreamp as better the quality pwerformance level you achieve.

Then comes the TT.

Of course is only an opinion.

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.
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