Hi Fjn04 and Tobias, I'd like to thank you both for sharing your Insight on this topic, as it does allow me a means of narrowing down which would be a better investment in the long run. It appears that it's merely about cosmetics more then anything from what I've read so far. Be well guys and Happy Holidays to both of you and your families. Regards, Oscar |
Guys, My intent is to use it with a bare minimum a Dynavector 20x2 and at a later date look into either the XXmk2 or said EMT tsd-15, as Don mentioned to me last year a good sounding $2.000 would go very far with enhancing what's great about this table. Yet looking at the numbers, if need be I'd swing the GTA version and never have to think back - what if?. So with that being said I'd like to thanks those of you whom were willing to share your thoughts on this matter, as it's something I was beginning to loose hairs over and that's kind of hard to imagine as I'm already bald headed. So your words are more then a little bit appreciated to say the least. Regards, Oscar |
Hi Paul2240, I'm beginning to think that it's must as you've mentioned purely appearances that differ between the two. Yet after doing more leg work my next question to all of you would be..................., is the DPS Power Supply worth considering?, as it appears some say yes, while others say the standard wall wart is more then up to doing the job and the DPS came about as a request to the guys at Dynavector New Zealand as a means of supply and demand. What's the consensus on using one of these in your opinion as I tend to think our voltage here in the States is more constant then in other countries?. Do have a pleasant Holiday and thanks for your willingness to share your insight as it all helps me narrow down the truth. Regards, Oscar |
Hi Guys, Once again I'd like to thank each and everyone of you, as it has made it easier for me to read between the lines on which options are worthwhile as well as going with the DPS Power Supply. I posted this inquiry on three different sites and just about everyone on each had their own views on what was what!, yet consensus is to go with the GTA model and the 20x2 as opposed to getting the standard version with an XXmk2, and in all honesty being someone whom sold Linn and Naim back in the day I totally understand/believe in the best source first rule followed by lesser components downstream. It's merely a no brainer and seeming that it's my last time doing this - why not go all out and not have to rethink my choice down the road and be thinking - what if?. Once again here's hoping each one of you and your loved ones the very best for the Holidays and lets just hope we're able to see beyond 12-21-2012!. Peace, Oscar |
Chashas1, I actually put this same posting here along with Audioasylum and on Pinkfishmedia and was able to get quite a bit of feedback on the other forums as well. It was Jason Hector whom rights for several British magazine along with a few others whom said it would get better results from using the GTA version with a 20x2 as opposed to using a XXmk2 on the standard version - and seeming that I used to assist in demos where Linn used to show the importance of the best Table first rule followed by tonearm and then the cartridge - always sounded better and made more logical sense then having a cheaper table with a state of the art tonearm and cartridge. It merely proved that in other to recieve all of the information buried in the grooves the table has to be up to par - as a friend of mine talks about the differences as heard to his ears in regard to Push Pull amps vs SET, which goes no one in their right might would build an amp that uses EL34's all out as they would with one based on 300B's or 845's that's like putting tires from Walmart on a BMW 750. In the end I got his point. For now I'm more concerned with getting the best version of the table I'm able to afford and worry about which route to go as far as better cartridges at a later date - Don also likes the EMT - esd 15 on these tables as well where some have even recommended using the Dynavector XV-1t - not in my lifetime................, I'd rather have 2-3 backup cartridges for that price, but that's just me being particle. Or cheap - it's one or the other. Regards, Oscar |
I meant to say EMT - tsd15 cartridge, to which I'm still waiting for Ken to do the review on 6moons. Speaking of which - Ken I'm sorry to hear about the lost of your Mom, here's hoping you're better and we'll see you back writing soon!, and our hearts go out to you and yours. Be well, Oscar |
Chashas1, Trust me................, I do understand what you're getting at in regards to the table options as well as Hector. Yet what's the deal with the black damped platters being used on the older model?, did I miss something by using one on my Classic MK V as opposed to the original frosted one from years prior?. In the end I'll trust my ears and not my eyes before parting with the funds, but it great to have a guideline and know what's what with the DPS as well as the cartridges. All of you've made the selection process that much easier for me, and I thank you all once again for your willingness to share. Regards, Oscar |
Hi guys, After speaking with Mike about the power cord issues , as I need at least an 8' lenght from the stand to a dedicated AC outlet just left of my system, I was told he could source longer cords as well. In the end I'm merely going for the best sound quality I'm able to get from this table and finally move on to a nice SET 300B Integrated Amp and chill for whatever time I've left on the planet!. Once again much thanks to all of you for your willingness to help me figure this all out. Regards, Oscar |
Hi Chashas1 and Plinko, I've owned three different version of the Classic since 1993 and the first one was the square motored version with the acrylic platter which back then Corey Greenberg was raving about the Damped Black Platter and so on I never gave it much thought to compare the two. So in hindsight, I should've stayed with the original platter all along - who knew!. And Plinko, while I was at Don's last year he had both tables in and both were very nice looking, and that Dynavector Tonearm would allow me to rotate between Stereo and Mono Cartridges much easier as my jazz collection is about 50/50, but in the end it comes down to synergy and here's where I'm sticking with the original Amadeus as meant to be heard from its designers standpoint as opposed to the New Zealand distrubtor whom has based this combination on said convenience due to his ties with Dynavector. As it stands right now................., I'm going after the table - the DPS power supply and the Auditorium 23 LP Mat and merely purchase extra cartridges between 4/6 months down the road as I already have 4 different ones set aside in storage. I tend to read between the lines in said topics and have pursued the following cartridges as a means to suit taste/mood much easier - Soundsmith Carmen - Denon A-100 - Audio Technica AT-33EV as well as a Lyra Dorian Mono, the 20x2 will be what I've installed on either table until my budget can allow the XXmk2 which is where I'm done price wise. Once again I rather have multiple cartridges in hand to explore various results and not be limited by caught up based upon prices along, I know quite a few Asian TW Acustic Raven owners whom are using AT - 33PTG's on theirs and rave about them. Regards, Oscar |
Hi roscoeiii and Chashas1, I shall report my findings on both the cartridges and the DPS, Chashas1, after talking to Mike at DynavectorUSA about an hour ago on the phone...................., I'm going after the GTA!, it just mades more since in the long run considering just how long I've been investing in this line, and sonce I've mentioned this is my last go round - I'd have thinking about if I made the wrong decision by going with the cheaper one!, now it's just a matter of getting through the Holidays with the family and only then treating myself with a shiny new toy or two in January!. Either way my table quest is over - next stage a nice James Burgess Audio customized 300B SET Integrated Amp to put in front of my DeVore Gibbon 3's as I'm also aware that John used an Audio Note 300B based amp while voicing his speakers and it only makes sense to hear them as they were intended to be heard and only then will I know the Truth. And for those of you following this - the Gibbon 3XL's are a joke either. Peace Beyond To You All, Oscar |
Hi Fjn04, Thanks for your endorsement, and I'll take it upon myself to research the Ortofon Royal N. as you've mentioned. No matter what?, this is my last go round at this and I'd rather be done with it and get back to what I enjoy the most about this hobby - chasing down those rare and long forgotten treasures called Black Gold ( Vinyl ), the hunt is what keeps me focused................, just finding that one extra Blue Note DG Mono or Prestige DG Mono or Columbia 6-eye Mono in Mint/NM condition is what it's all about for me - THE MUSIC. Take care all of you and thanks for your assistance with this, I got it from here. Regards,Oscar |
Fjn04, I've just got finished researching that Ortofon SPU Royal N, great call I think it looks very interesting to say the least. I for one know that many overseas WTL Table uses love this line as well and that many tend to overlook older brands based on what the newer designs bring - but looking very carefully at what I've seen the trend seems to be going full circle to many of the cartridge designs that were renowned for Musicality in those Golden Days where analogue was the only game in town - look at what's happening with the Shindo 301 - it's tonearm and its cartridge as well the return to the use of EMT cartridges on this size of the pond. To my mind many of the MC cartridges that have been produced since the introduction of CD's are more tailored to mimic their resolution at the overall expense of musicality - in other words away from texture - warmth and tonality towards Hi-Rez. Thanks for the tip................, it certainly makes my short list of ones to try out. Very very very good catch once again. Regards, Oscar |
Hi Tobias, Thanks for the tip, I wondered just how that worked with the cord arrangement that is. Regards, Oscar |
