Was I Expecting Too Much


Hi everyone.  I'm looking for a heading check with a situation I encountered yesterday.  

Background:

I'm planning to upgrade my turntable later this year - Q3 is my target.  After my research, I've narrowed down to AMG and Brinkmann.  I was able to audition an AMG Viella yesterday, and was looking to audition a Bardo or Taurus for comparison.  I know my thought of trying to fit in a Brinkmann demo was last-minute, and some dealers are particular when it comes to appointments and allowing them time to setup their demo.  

The Situation:

So I called the local Brinkmann dealer and inquired to see if a bardo or taurus happened to be setup.  The salesman I spoke with said they had both, and he was going to check if a demo was possible.  After a few minutes, I get a phone call back from the owner who seemed rather dismissive of my request.  I explained that I'm currently doing my research and looking to hear some demos to help down-select, and that my purchase would be a few months from now.  He asked for my budget which I found strange as I already stated what I was interested in demoing.  Then the conversation turned to what gear I already own, which I understand sort-of.  Then the owner basically said it doesn't make sense for me to demo anything now and to call back when I'm ready to purchase.  

How am I going to know what I want to purchase without demoing the options?

Was I expecting too much by asking to hear equipment that I'm interested in?  My opinion is a sale isn't guaranteed and an audio dealer, just like any other dealer, needs to invest some reasonable amount of time to capture a sale.  You don't capture all the sales, but I didn't think I was being unreasonable in my request and certainly was not trying to waste anyone's time.  I was pretty transparent with where I'm at and I guess he was reciprocating my transparency by telling me to go away.  I felt "less-than" by this experience.  As if I wasn't worth investing any time into.

Thoughts?

 

cbl117

Showing 3 responses by pindac

Plenty of ideas put forward why the sales team have acted as they did.

The Outlet might have policies that govern how they interact with a inquiry, and there is a monitoring of the Sales Staff.

In many situations today calls are recorded, maybe they have to show an assertiveness when dealing with phone inquiries. The idea of turning up in person and seeing what is able to be arranged might be the better approach, as turning away a encounter that seems to be a genuine sales inquiry, will be more difficult than thwarting ones inquiry that suggests ones intentions are from an educational aspect and not necessarily committed to a purchase.  

It does seem the idea of a Brand attaining a large proportion of sales over their competitors is quite a challenge. There are always a selection of Brands to be seen on a Shortlist or offered up a suggestion as ones to consider. Attached to this are the Brands Models that fit into the constraint of the allowed for Budget. 

All Brands are seemingly needing to depend on there retail support to get their products into the widespread arena, where the products can be encountered and demonstrated to inquirers.

Does it not make sense that a Brand should have a basic guideline given to a retailer on how they wish for their product to be represented. I would assume as much exposure through demonstration would be key.

It would also be beneficial to the Brand if they had a means put in place, for a customer/prospective customer to report back on how they feel they have been dealt with in relation to retailer handling the preparations for a sale.

A info being shared of this type, will certainly assist a Brand in identifying where there is wriggle room for their potential customers to encounter a satisfying experience.

Not much in addition would be required to sift out any Hoax Reporting.   

The OP @cbl117 has stated, 

" I've narrowed down to AMG and Brinkmann.  I was able to audition an AMG Viella yesterday, and was looking to audition a Bardo or Taurus for comparison."  

"How am I going to know what I want to purchase without demoing the options?"

The first statement is suggesting that it is known what is wanted to be purchased.

The differences between Brands is the drives are DD or BD.

The differences between the Models is that one is able to be configured to have a dual mounting for a Tonearm.

All the above models can receive a large selection of TA's or TA/Cart' configurations.

As the OP has not made it known about their intentions for the TA or Cart's to be used, the opportunity to learn how a assembly of ancillaries might best Wed to the TT's shortlisted.

If I were in the market to spend $15-$20K, I would be most interested in what I was going to be buying into, and especially how owners of the same or very similar describe their experience, if a report is offered. With this info at hand, the conversation one has about about their expectation for what is to be demo'd will be more sure footed and project a solid intention.

Not too many years ago I was introduced to and become very interested in a Bespoke Built Tonearm that has been produced in small numbers by a very adept EE with skills that are extended into micro engineering. To experience the Tonearm in use and compare it to my other owned TA's. Over the course of a year, I travelled a few journey's that are close to 200 miles as a round trip. The outcome being all roads lead to the purchase of this Bespoke Built TA, it has superseded in use all other owned TA's. 

I learnt what I was buying into, and am also quite confident, I will have to find another £5K - £10K as a purchase price to supersede the selected TA. I can say this as it has made a TA that is very respected and retails at £3.5K seem quite low in quality as a performance.  

The route to how the purchase is finalised would be the secondary consideration.