Wanting to upgrade my streaming sound quality.


I would really like to get my streaming sq up to my analog sq. My equipment is a McIntosh MC 452, C47, TD 124 with an AT 150 SA on a SME M2-9 tone arm, a Rega P8 with an Alpheta 3, a restored MR 74 tuner, driving Aerial 7t speakers. My streaming now is an iPad with a usb cable into my preamp with Tidal. I would be willing to spend around $2500 . A one box solution would be preferable for a steamer/dac combo although two boxes could also work. I’m not interested in multiple clocks and separate power supplies etc. Also I don’t use CD’s for a source.  I do have AT&T fiber internet with up to 1000 mb speed and my modem is only around 5 feet from my audio rack. Balanced inputs is preferable but not a deal breaker. I’ve looked at the HiFi Rose 250 and the 150 although the latter is more money than I want to spend. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I’m an Analog guy in a digital world.

Greg

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A Lumin D2 will get you what you want, within your budget with a little left over for a legitimate CAT6 cable. 1 box, balanced out. Tidal, Qobuz, Roon support. A T2 if you want to reach a little further.

I thought I would weigh in on your question as I have embarked on the streamer journey since our house burned down last year in a forest fire. I replaced all my old equipment with similar gear mostly from Audiogon. I love analog, and I found an old VPI TNT VI with a VdH Crimson cartridge to replace my lost analog rig. After looking around for a streamer/DAC, I settled on a Cary Audio DMS 700 (new) and it was amazing to stream music from Qobuz that made the previously wonderfully sounding old Wadia 860 sound restrained. I now run a digital coax from the Wadia and use it as a transport for the few CD's that were donated to me. The Cary approached, and in some cases almost equaled my analog rig. I then needed another streamer in a different part of the house so I tried the DMS 650 ($4796 at the Cary Direct Store), which was almost the equal of the 700, as it is a new product for Cary. At the same time, I trialed the DMS 800 (a new product for them) which knocked my socks off for detail, holographic imaging and not a hint of digital harshness. Though the DMS 650 is above your stated budget, consider that it has state of the art AKM DAC's that will resolve all the high resolution formats you utilize. It also has balanced outputs, with multiple digital input options, and I suspect you would notice that it will make the streaming of digital music close enough to your analog rig that you will use it more often as you explore more and more music from cyberspace. Cary Audio will let you trial it for 30 days to see if you like it. Alternatively, you could try to find a used DMS 600 for close to your budget, which I have not heard, but others have reported on favorably. Good Luck.

So I think I’m going to have to up my budget to get what I want. I’ve been searching different streamer/dacs tonight and finding 3 at around 5k that all look interesting. The HiFi Rose 150 b, the Lumin T2, and the CaryDMS 650. Everyone of these checks all my Boxes and in fact are one box solutions that according to reviews  could easily surpass my analog gear for sq. The Cary is brand new but there are reviews of previous models. The T2 is well reviewed and the HiFi rose is very well thought of. Any thoughts on these three. The ease of use is important to me as I’m not very good with complicated machines.

@gphill if you have settled on that shortlist, my advice is to go and look at the app used to control them. With streaming, the app is your hands-on experience with the unit; imagine if your turntable was horribly fiddly to use and didn’t react to what you wanted it to do while being unintuitive. These challenges with the control software will make your user experience unenjoyable and could stop you using the unit. Sound quality is of course the primary target but the software is an incredibly close second. As you’re getting into this, I would avoid roon as it adds another complication, which means the software is even more important. I can’t speak on the Cary, but I’ve seen and read up on the Lumin and Rose software, the Rose is known to have an exceptional control app while the Lumin would come in second from that list. As I say, go and look into the app and buy the unit that you will enjoy using more, that is what will make you fall in love with streaming.

For what it’s worth I’d suggest the Rose would be your best fit, the software, extra functionality and the screen showing album art could all be a game changer for you.