VTL 5.5 vs. Lamm LL2?


I'm trying to mate my VTL MB185 mono amps with a really nice preamp. My budget is around $3000.00. Initially, I thought that the best choice would be a unit made by the same manufacturer as the amps. Anyway, what better place to get an intelligent opinion on this than Audiogon. By the way,

I'm not interested in hearing anything about the Audio Horizons preamp. I've already read about that unit in the longest running. I believe that they have the longest running thread on audiogon (over 3.5 years) with over 1000 entries (most) from the same small handful of people. Does anyone find this odd? Either way, I'm not interested in this unit. Although, I'm sure that some of it's "long standing" fans will make it into this forum.
kensetsu

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Thanks TVAD. Actually, I may be leaning toward the Audio Research LS26. Any opinions on that one?
Yup Mark.. They certainly are. You started an Audio Horizons thread back in March of 2006 and as of October 3rd, you and about 6 others have consistently posted on that thread. As a matter of fact, you and the others are constantly mentioning the Audio Horizons Preamp on several other threads. Anyway, with well over 1000 posts in over 3.5 years, I believe that the Audio Horizons thread holds the record.... Even though.... There aren't really that many new people posting. That... I find curious and... Since I'm a New Yorker... I'm really not concerned with the answer. Besides, other people keep trying to get me to buy the Brooklyn Bridge.
Mitch? That was a very useful and informative comparison. Thank you so much. To tell you the truth, the only thing that I didn't like about the Lamm is that it didn't have a balanced output, but... That's probably more hype than anything else, huh? Thanks..
Mark.. I suspect that you're endocrine system is dysfunctional. It's pumping out too much estrogen. I'm basing his on the fact that "men" usually know when to let something go. However... women? They really can't help themselves. Perhaps you should consider some Androderm patches. Of course, you could always change your sexual preference.. Then your inability to let something go and move one would be more easily explained.
Mitch! Great response. Very logical, no nonsense, advice.

Thanks. I guess I could always put a placette in the middle of the preamp and the amp if I was that annoyed by having to get up, huh?
Sherod, You have no idea what you're talking about. Use your head. I started this thread on the 10th of this monte. the Audio Horizon thread is over 3 & 1/2 years old and... it has over 1000 entries by the same people...over and over... and over.. is fishy. As a matter of fact, you've made over 100 of those entries. I guess that you don't remember, huh? Please leave me alone.
Whoops Sherod! You're right.. I guess that you guys aren't the only slippery characters out there. Give me a break.. I'm not interested in your no name... no resale value... bunch of hype.. scam.. preamp. Go Away.. I think all of you guys are con artists. Regardless, it doesn't matte what I think.. Just leave me alone. I suspect that your preamp is no better than any other preamp that comes in from China.
I'd like to thank all of my fellow audiogoners who are contributing to this post. Lots of useful info.
Sherod, It is what it is. If you don't like it then go. I stated the facts as I see them. Why the hell is it that you are in almost every thread that mentions this preamp. When the hell do you listen to music. Why is your life dedicated and devoted to a product that someone else made. You and your entire group should go start a cult. Oh! I forgot.. You already have. Leave me alone. Don't you get it. This can only hurt the manufacturer that you support. DO YOU REALLY WANT TO DRAW MORE NEGATIVE ATTENTION TO THIS NO NAME BRAND! Let it go.. As far as an accusation goes, I stated the way that it appeared. Get a life outside of helping to market that preamp. I can't imagine why anyone would expend so much effort to support a product so strongly if they didn't have an active financial interest in it. If you don't like that fact that I can state my own opinion or have a right to reject your piece of junk recommendation, then get lost. That includes you and all of the other little sissy girls who are going to join you in supporting this product, WHO are also extremely active in a thread about a damn preamp. Jeez. Go away.. GOT IT! It's my money and I'll spend it as I see fit. I'm not coming over to bother you on your thread. DON'T BOTHER ME. Let this be your official notice to cease with your harassins behavior. Further attempts to bother me will be reported to Audiogon.
Mark... Oh My God. Your response is laughable. I really needed the comic relief. Think about it "little boy". You called me a name and accused me of having a Syndrome, because I didn't agree with you. LOL!!! What's the other name for a baby cat? LOL!!!

You remind me of a little kid, who puts his underwear on over his pajamas, ties a towel around his neck, puts his mother's bra on his head and pretends to fly around the room.

Mark.. that's "make believe" and so is your attempt to demonstrate your knowledge of psychology, mental illness and the engineering of thought process, including but not limited to fear, insecurity, motives, etc.

Pal.... LOL! You have no idea just far in over your head you are. You, my man, are attempting to punch WAY OUT OF YOUR WEIGHT CLASS here in this subject area. I've eaten my fare share of PhD psychologist for breakfast. Especially the one's who lack the ability to think on their feet, apply what they think they've learned out of books that were written by people "like you", who's self esteem and need to be accepted are so great, that in a pitiful and desperate effort to get attention, create phrases like "imposter syndrome" to serve as a cry for help. An SOS if you will. It's like shouting. PLEASE.. SOMEONE HELP ME. NO ONE AGREES WITH ME.. I'M GONNA CRY.

Do we really need to address your statement and how it, IN FACT, is a reflection of your own insecurity and how it ties into a lack of self esteem and a tragic need for EXTERNAL validation to support you self worth. Actually, Mark... you're the one that's demonstrating easily labeled abnormal "psycho-social" behavior. Perhaps you and your group should go start your own society, built around your preamp. OK.. Mark you win... the world is flat... or round... I can effectively argue either point. Still, your efforts to undermine my opinions by trying to classify me as "being poorly integrated into society" are amateur and laughable.

So are your upcoming responses/counter accusations which will have absolutely nothing to do with the issue at hand. In Layman's terms.. I'm referring to the "smoke screen" that you'll be using to hide your own failed efforts.

From this statement, It's obvious that your entire existence and ability to look at yourself in the mirror comes your need for others to agree with you. If you actually did have both self confidence and the strength of your convictions you wouldn't have to call people names when they don't agree with you.
Sherod... I will say one thing about you. You remain respectful and considerate. I'm impressed. If my decision was based on the class that you demonstrate, I'd purchase one of these preamps in a heartbeat. Still... There's the issue of more than one advocate for this product emailing me from the same IP address. How would I know this... Well.. I subscribe to pointormail.com. I just email that email address from a bogus one with the extension .pointof mail.com and when the recipient opens the email. BINGO. I get a return reciept with their IP address.

Sherod, since you've been able to behave as an adult, I'd like to ask you as an adult and a "man" to extend to ME, the same courtesy and respect that YOU would expect when asking someone to leave you alone. I wonder if Audio Horizons would appreciate it if I directed the 8 (middle aged female) subject editors that I have on staff to devote 30 minutes per day toward trashing this product (and everyone that mentions it) on Audiogon. LOL... Trust me... I recieve about 900 articles per month from female writers in 12 countries. If there's one thing that bridges culture, politics, religion, etc... it's there ability to bust a man's chops... Oh my God.. Just unsubscribe to that site. LOL... Thank God, they're actually on my side. Whew... By the way, did any of you guys notice that I only get a chance to check this forum/blog about once every 2 weeks.