VPI Classic 3 IDLE drive


Hi all,

I have as VPI Classic 3 I bought about 1 year ago and I was lately looking at the pictures on their website and notice that the classic now has an idle drive.
I also noticed that the platter has grooves where the belt goes, while mine doesn't.
I then called vpi and asked them if the idle drive was ready to be purchased for upgrade but They told me it wasn't.

Today while looking on you tube, I saw a video with a classic 3 with the same device I have seen on the website.

It is basically a larger pulley that touches the platter thus functioning like a rim drive however it still uses the belt along with it.

I was wondering if anybody here can help understand if this upgrade is finally available.

Thanks.
Stefano.
stefanoo

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here is the link to the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rHTgroMrj0

Also, look at VPI's website and check the pictures out.
The pulley is way bigger than what I have on my classic and it should be a representation of the IDLE drive.
Pulley is in contact with the platter that has grooves on the side, while mine doesn't.

When I called VPI they told me that the device shown there wasn't available at the moment, but then I came across this video by accident.

The Classic 3 can be used without SDS even with the small pulley(although I have speed regulator) and the pulley is designed just like in the Classic 1 to deliver proper 33 1/3 and 45 RPM.

One thing aside: I have changed oil a couple of days ago and I used super lube (same stuff used by VPI).
It runs much slower.
At first I noticed its speed was wobbling then followed the advice to boil the belt and wobbling was gone, but speed was still significantly low (measure with precision KAB strobe).
To give an idea, frequency on SDS had to increase from 60.04Hz to 62.08Hz.
With this setting I get proper speed regulation.

I have also noticed that when stylus rests on vinyl, belt is off and motor is on, I notice low frequency buzz on my speaker (phono has no subsonic filter no cuts whatsoever).

If I press on the top of the pulley buzz lowers significantly.
Mike told me that the shaft might be loosen and reccomended to take pulley off and under that there should be another screw that needs to be tightend and a drop of oil needs to be put in.
I tried to remove pulley by removing the 3 hex screws on the side and trying to pull, but it won't come off.
Any hint on that?
Why is it different from mine? Does anybody here have a classic 3?
Pulley on mine is smaller, like the one shown on vpi's website if you click on classic one.
Are you saying that tables come with two different pulleys? One if you have sds and one if you don't?
I didn't know that!
Super lube is for the bearing of the platter.

The platter was going slow because I had put slightly too much grease.
I left it spin for a couple of hours and it got faster peace.
I will still let it Seattle for another few hours.

Regarding the pulley, I removed the hex screws but the pulley must be so tight since it was very hard to remove.
I didn't pulled it out, I decide to not force anything and put everything back.

As for balancing screws, thanks for the tip I hadn't thought of that.
Anyhow since the pulley doesn't move not even if pulled quit hard, I don't think that the screws will act much on balance.
Nevertheless I will check into that making sure the pulley spins correctly.

I now understand that the bigger pulley I have seen in both the website and YouTube videos is not theRIM drive.
I was hoping VPI would have developed one, mike after all told me a while ago they were working on it.

Is it going to be hard to lubricate the motor with the old pulley?

I guess I should lubricate it since I had the table for more than a year although I probably played it no more than 100-150 hrs.
Mike recommended me for the motor's oil something that can be boughtat fish-haunt store...something like rail oil.

Could somebody here please help me to understand how to properly lubricate my motor with the older pulley!?
I have read several post but I can't understand where the brass bracket is.

Thanks
Thank you all for all your comments!

Is the lover RPM's motor better than the higher's?

I would be tempted to say that the lower the RPMs the less the vibration.
Could anybody here give me a hint if I should ask VPI to send me the lower RPM's or it's not a significant change?!?

I will read carefully through the comments for lubrication of the motor.
Just one comment: I don't see any Allen wrench under the collar I think it is press and fit, am I wrong?
I have read some info on the net and saw this review:

http://www.tonepublications.com/analogaholic/the-vpi-classic-1-turntable-originally-featured-in-issue-46/

As a matter of fact they are saying that plinth on Classic 3 is more massive and that motor is 300RPM.

When I bought this table I was upgrading from a Classic 1 and motor and plinth are or at least look exactly the same.

Now I am wondering, is it possible to get these parts replaced to match the latest stock table?
Does anybody have my same configuration?
My table has the silver top instead of the black mat finish.
I was so zealous that I was one of the first one to upgrade to the Classic 3.
I have read some info on the net and saw this review:

http://www.tonepublications.com/analogaholic/the-vpi-classic-1-turntable-originally-featured-in-issue-46/

As a matter of fact they are saying that plinth on Classic 3 is more massive and that motor is 300RPM.

When I bought this table I was upgrading from a Classic 1 and motor and plinth are or at least look exactly the same.

Now I am wondering, is it possible to get these parts replaced to match the latest stock table?
Does anybody have my same configuration?
My table has the silver top instead of the black mat finish.
I was so zealous that I was one of the first one to upgrade to the Classic 3.