VPI Avenger


I had the pleasure of hearing this table in 6 different rooms at RMAF, and it sounds and looks beautiful.
Are there any owners of this table that could share their thoughts? I'm seriously considering ordering one. I have the original Classic TT and want to move up the VPI line.
mdp

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Why the vertical play in the motor stems?
Why the addition of the small brass collars to the motor stems?
The Hurst motors have a single friction bearing at the top of the motor housing;  the magnetic rotor hangs below it and is unsupported at the bottom.  IME, this is a source of a lot of the vibration in these motors.  The 55mm series are supported on both the top and bottom, but the motors have a 0.25" shaft rather than the 0.1875" shaft of the PA/PB series (59mm).

The stock Hurst motor has a "C" type snap ring attached to the shaft that rides on the top of the bearing, with a wave type spring washer in between, suspending the rotor at that position.  These motors usually have a fair amount of vertical play.  I believe the brass collar was a VPI specific mod that allowed you to take up some of the slack in the vertical play and try to dampen the vibration by pulling the rotor semi-tight against the bearing using the wave washer as suspension.  On the motors I have, it has limited affect.

IME, the Hurst motors aren't cheesy because of where they are manufactured, they are cheesy because of how they are designed and built.  A 3 phase BLDC motor with precision bearings is a much better solution:

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/analogue-source/288730-3-phase-bldc-motor-turntable-use.html

I still see a lot of apparently unresolved complaints on VPI's forum regarding motor vibration and the Classic turntable.  I wonder if the problem got worse when they started using the 49mm series motor which is quite a bit cheaper.

I also have come to understand that the Classic line will be discontinued next year.  Coincidence?