@newton_john Thank you. That is a very elegant explanation for the differences people hear (if they do!) between music released on vinyl and digital.
Vinyl sounds better (shots fired)
I was bored today on a support job so I made a meme. This isn’t a hard or serious conviction of mine, but I am interested in getting reactions 😁
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No, we don't 'dump' on digital. It's just that many of us read, write and play music and have for many decades, so we say that vinyl more completely produces the sounds of music, which it does. If you are listening to classical music, you could easily hear what digital doesn't do, as well as analog. Ambience, for one, is suggested by digital, but it rarely gets the entire ambience of a club or symphony hall correctly, although the better recordinss to a better job of it. (A friend of mine who has a music degree) suggested I listen to a Brucker recording that was done at the Concertgebouw, and that the ambience of the hall was even apparent on his system (I gave him that system, so I know its strengths and weaknesses), which didn't surprise me. But it's not as easily completely outlined in digital, and, before some less-than-mature posters suggest it could be my dac, I want to assure you: that's not it. The more I've thought about it, the more I'm convinced that most of the people who post snarky posts are completely unfamiliar with acoustic music. Anyone who's familiar with acoustic instruments knows what they sound like. But most of the posters post things like "if-the-vinyl-freaks-heard-good-digital-they'd-be-depressed." Well no, "we" wouldn't, since "we" already have an excellent digital setup. And I STILL say vinyl conveys the music more closely to what is sounds like in the symphony hall. Now, if what people listen to is pop, rock and all the other music that is filtered, manipulated and sounds that way, then that's their thing. That's why the majority of my music is 50s, 60s and 70s, although I have plenty of '80s and '90s music, due to also being a club DJ during those decades. So I can listen to two records, one made in say, 1975, and one made in 1985. The 1985 disc usually lacks bass (especially if it was pop. The 80s had the worst bass, especially Electra Records), the voices are doubled (or smeared) and the lead vocalist sounds like a real, live human being. There was more manipulation of records in the '80s than in the preceding 3 decades combined! So, if that is someone's diet, no wonder they don't hear differences in cables, in speaker systems. "Garbage in, garbage out" in music leads to the kind of 'diet' that will not bless you with any kind of hearing acuity. |
So, I observe most are streaming these days. Took many years to get streams up to sound quality of cd's played via my Mark Levinson transport with Phillips Pro mechanism or later on cd rips. Getting clocking correct is critical for providing 'flow' aka inherent sense of relaxation vinyl/analog excels with. Combine this with top notch streamer, dac, and digital can reproduce the complex harmonic structure, ambience and 'flow' of both mine and other very nice vinyl setups I've heard over decades. Recording quality of specific vinyl or digtal recordings is a far greater variable than digital vs. digital. Many others with nice vinyl setups reporting the same. |
@medium_grade Stated " but I am interested in getting reactions 😁" The OP has certainly been successful with achieving their interest. I can't side any longer, End Sound produced from a Digital Source or Analogue Source are totally satisfying. I use my Digital Source with the Standalone Dedicated DAC and my Vinyl Source with a option on Standalone Dedicated Phonostages and other ancillaries to woork with the Cartridge Type being used. I do have to consider Equipment required to receive signal and send it on for further Amplification, but that is the part of being interested in audio equipment and the End Sound able to be produced, this is an equal interest for each source, and will most likely be equally considered when Streaming as a Source is an added option. As for the needed Medium, I own Analogue Hard Medium for approx' 40 Years and still collect this medium as used Purchases and New Purchases from New Artists. The Initial Digital Medium is inherited approx' 10 Years past as a result of other Family Members having given up on using CD and have their music data on Phones. Purchased of New and Used CD's is continuous and multi hundreds are a collection at the present. CD Albums has proven to be much easier to acquire than Vinyl Albums, as a carrier bag full can be bought for a few pounds. After many years of A/B Comparisons of same Album Titles using various configurations of a audio system set up the experiences have led to one outcome. pl When listening to either Source, there is not a want to experience the other under the guise there is better to be attained, the musical encounter produced by either is more than enough to make a good impression. If I were invited to be informed on critical mechanical requirements of a CD Player or a Turntable > Tonearm > Cartridge, the Analogue learning will take precedence all the time and there lies the difference, the mechanical requirements of Analogue has it own Sub Category for being compelling to learn and be an interest.
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