Vinyl playback - lack of bass?

ok, it might be potentially the source material. I think Ill need to find another song/album to compare with and play them one after the other to do an A/B test.

@bubba12 thanks, I kind of had a feeling about this as well.

Thanks all, so this is what I am going to do based on what I have read here.

1. I need to do a better test. I think someone gave me an idea with Daft Punk. I might test 1 track from Random Access Memories and compare both digital vs LP.

2. I need to re look at my capacitance settings. I remember with the 310lp I think I was confused as the manual suggested to use 0pF for MC cartridges, however, for the Ania, it states to use 1000 pF, which the 310lp only has 3 options, 0pF, 100pF and 470pF. At first I thought 100pF was the 1000 one since it was missing. Ill double check what its set at, so not sure at the moment if it should be on 470 or 0.

3. I think I should give the Ania a true test and wait until its fully broken in. I know the store did indeed tell me after 100 hours it will change. Im hoping to hear something at 50 Hours, fingers crossed.

4. maybe its time to change the phono first (before the TT, not sure if I want to change it yet, since I haven't used it much). Im not sure if maybe the pass labs xp15 is a good option (read reviews that it has a warmer sound than the xp17) This may need another discussion thread on its own in the near future.

@chayro yes, good point, for sure it wouldnt be right away anyway. I would need to wait for a good condition/deal on a used xp15 anyway. Ill do some research, it could take many months. I just assumed that the pass labs xp15 is most likely a better phono all around and yes a different sound quality for sure. Supposedly the xp15 gives a bit of that tube likeish sound.

alright, so I did some testing last night on 2 songs.

Daft Punk album. With the LP version it was very similar in bass vs tidal. one song had more pronounced bass on the LP version and another on the streaming version, but very very slight. Seems like maybe the last few albums I spun on record caused me to think there was a lack of bass.

When I said older it was 80s rock. So I know one Skid Row I had listened to a few months ago and the one from 2 nights ago lacked some bass, but it seems like this must be the recording and not an issue with the LP itself.

Also, like most are mentioning, I will need to wait for the cartridge to fully break in. I just wish I could fast track it. 100 hours is probably something like 133 records. I am keeping track as I mark the ones Ive listened to. I guess I need to be a bit more patient. Will probably put some Black Sabbath on tonight.

@vair68robert 

Im going to open it up and check. Here is where Im confused and because of my bad memory, I dont remember, but I know Ive had this discussion possibly with moon directly. Resistance loading : J12 and J30 is 1k but in Ω .

Capacitance Loading options : 0pF, 100pF and 470pF

From the Rega site in regards to the Ania:

Impedance 100 Ω
Capacitance 1000 pF

So Im assuming the Impedance = Resistance loading since its measured in Ω

@vair68robert  just to add, i just found info that I had asked in the past. So Im pretty sure i have Capacitance Loading set to 0pF as per the recommendation in the manual from Moon. they also re-confirmed this with me. And Impedance/Resistance Loading set to 100 Ω

@vair68robert that is the issue sadly.

Capacitance Loading options are only 0pF, 100pF and 470pF and i was told to use 0pF and was told its not supposed to be that high for an MC cartridge, they were confused. the max i could try is 470pF, but not sure how much that will change. Also, I looked at the pass labs xp15 and that one also doesnt go to 1000pF either. I was told this setting is mostly for MM cartridges and not for MC. Can someone confirm this?

@vair68robert  yes , correct, which I used to have the Aria before. Hence the confusion it caused me when i moved over. I do indeed have 66dB setting on balanced connection. 

Wow, that Tavish looks nice! I never heard of them before.

@stevencason I think everything should be setup properly, the technician from the store I bought it from set it all up for me. 

@merland100 oh yeah, the 810lp is 2 jumps higher than mine and of course the TT as well. I might look into the P8 or P10 or go another route entirely. Im not sure yet. 891 must also sound really nice!

@grk I have to check, I believe I still need to upgrade my phono stage power cord, let me know if you have any suggestions, I was thinking of going with a BIS audio cable. For my preamp, I have a Shunyata Venom if I recall correctly. 

@grk  Thanks, I will check them out. Looking at their site, I have some similar local companies that might compare to that one. 

@jorgjean  I think Ill need to make a new post. One thing that I did realize very recently was that I upgraded my amp, speakers and preamp in the past 1-1.5 years, but now my source components need upgrading as well to get its full potential. Let me know which turntable suggestions you have? I would probably looking in the price range equivalent to the rega p8, as that might have been my next step.

@markalarsen  thanks, actually, this issue was resolved, it ended up being 2 albums back to back that caused this confusion, once I compared 1 particular track on both platforms, i found that the bass was not lacking. All is well. 

@markalarsen  and to be completely fair, i had a small period of a couple of months where i hadnt spun any records, so that doesnt help with my memory...