Vinyl on NAD M10 lower volume


Hi, I am a very happy owner of the NAD M10. I also bought it to listen to vinyl and I notice a significant drop in volume compared to streaming when playing a LP. Need to turn up the volume about 15-20 points to get to the same level as streaming. 
Any ideas on how to improve this?

Thinking of upgrading the phono preamp but I am not sure if this will work. Someone pointed out that it might have something to do with the ADC conversion that happens in the amp. 
This would suggest an external ADC converter might help. 

All tips are much appreciated.

Current setup:

NAD M10
B&W 705 Signature 
Rega P3
Rega fono mini preamp
remmy

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Makes me wonder what cartridge you’re using. I don’t have a volume problem when switching from phono source to digital. Occasionally I have LPs recorded at lower levels than others. 5 mV is an average cartridge output. What is your cartridge output?

I am not sure. It’s the standard one that comes with the Rega Planar 3.
Thanks both for your response. You seem not to agree. 

Youtuber Tarun (A British Audophile) (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X562tyZPgRQ&t=8s) pointed out that this might have something to do with the analogue input on the M10, which he thinks is mediocre. 

He believes it might be caused by the analogue to digital conversion in the M10. Therefore I thought an external ADC (so not a DAC but other way around) would maybe help. 

I would then still make use of the DAC inside the M10, but the input will be digital instead of analogue. 

What I was thinking is connecting the phono preamp to an external ADC converter and then connecting this to the digital input of the M10. Do you guys think this is worth looking into?

As this is a hassle with unclear results I would much prefer do something 'simple' as upgrading the preamp/phono stage. Any tips on beter preamps then the Rega fono mini? 


I did not have a good feeling on messing around with an ADC converter, so happy with your clear answers in this regard! 

As for just living with the inconvenience of turning up the volume, I sure can. I just wondered if also the sound quality of vinyl playback can be improved. Because of the change in volume, it first appeared that the sound quality of streaming was better than vinyl playback. Now I am not so sure anymore. It might be just the volume. 

However, I will do a lot more listening first as you pointed out clearly that I might not have a problem at all! :-)

Many thanks all for your input.