Vintage Advents too big for small room?


In my current house, where I'll be for at least another 5 years, my listening room is only 12' by 12'. I have New Advents, owned since new in 1978, tweeters replaced under warranty by the better ferrofluid ones, woofers replaced about 10 years ago with OEMs from Jensen, who owned Advent at the time. They're still beautiful and do everything they've always done, but they completely overwhelm this smaller room. I have no real choice but to place them in the corners. I've moved them out 6 inches, but that didn't help appreciably.

I've thought of two options: 1) buy some stands for the Advents in the hope of decoupling them from the room a little more, or 2) go with some much smaller monitors and stands that, just because of their size, would be farther from the corners of the room. Are there any other options?

Monitors would probably be something like Epos ELS-3, Ascend CBM-170, Triangle Titus - I would need to keep monitors+stands at $500 or less for now. Also, I've had trouble locating stands for the Advents - any reasonably priced suggestions?

David
armstrod

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Armstrod:

Your 12' X 12' room sounds very much like my master bedroom/listening room in my old Astoria apartment (11' X 11'). It's unfortunate that you can not place the Advents horizontally inside of/on top of a bookcase, because that would solve the problem. I do something similar today with my Acoustic Research 302's (24" X12" X12") in a 10' X 15' room.

What would help is to get the speakers off the floor (about 8 to 10 inches) and out of the corners, though they could still be close to the walls. Right now you have your Advents set-up the way we would them set-up in the 70's. A type of DIY speaker stand that would work and would have decent WAF (my own wife really likes them) is a stand made of Armstrong opaque glass blocks. These are the types of blocks that are used in glass walls.

Each block measures 8" X 4 " X 4". Each stand would use 6 blocks and would be 16" Wide X 12" Deep X 8" High, when finished. You would create two rows of 3 blocks each. Each block in a row would be epoxied together (a small dab in each corner) and the two rows would be pushed together. That easy. To finish off the stand, you would need to place a small thin Rubbermaid type mat (12" X 12" size works best) on top of the glass blocks and then place a 12" X 12" marble tile square on top of the mat.

This will give you a smooth surface to place your speakers on. Stable and solid as all out, my cats have yet to topple a speaker in 5 years. The stand looks like an extension of the speaker. Total Cost is under a $100 and it is all available at your local Home Depot.

If you are going the monitor route and this is tough without knowing your equipment ... try the NHT SB2 at $400 list, but generally available at $300. They are an acoustic suspension/sealed box design and will give you a sound closest to your Advents. Because they are a sealed box design, they can be wall mounted or will sit nicely on an appropriate sized wall sconce.

Regards, Rich
David,

Give stands a shot ... no small monitor will ever sound as rich or as pleasing as a full range speaker that sports a 10" or so woofer. It's just the physics man. It is not that small monitors can't sound good ... they can ... but they will not be as rich sounding as your Advents.

I have two pair of the AR 302's ... these were reissues of the classic AR 5's from the 60's ... very similar to the original Advents. I use one pair in my main system and the other pair in a 2 channel HT system. It is tough to beat their warm, rich, full sound and I have owned many a small budget monitor ... EPOS 11; B&W 302; Wharefedale Diamond 8.1 ... the only ones that begin to approach the AR's are the NHT SB2's ... and I believe that is because they are acoustic suspension speakers ... just like the AR's.

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Regards, Rich